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Author Topic: 100% Carnivorous ... really?  (Read 501 times)
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Satya
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« on: July 16, 2008, 09:58:44 AM »

Okay, carnivores.  You have been making me think more about trying this.  But really, how many of you abstain from spices and such?  I am doing the hunter-gatherer thing more correctly by focusing on game, fish, fowl with some side plant goodies.  But to go totally without such foods as condiments even?  Okay, who really is shunning ALL plant foods.  Salt would be okay, but pepper?  Fahgetaboutit!  Real carnivores, stand up please.
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2008, 11:31:03 AM »

Spices to transition. I used garlic powder at first and I didn't know it then but it has hydrogenated oils in it! I can't claim absolute 100% carnivorism. I took my mother out for her birthday on the 5th of July and had some steamed broccoli with butter along with seared fish. But this type of thing happens very rarely. Anyway, almost all mammalian carnivores eat some negligible plant matter. Even cats chew on grass and get high on catnip but the calories gotten from this would probably be very low.

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Satya
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2008, 08:06:20 PM »

Anyway, almost all mammalian carnivores eat some negligible plant matter. Even cats chew on grass and get high on catnip but the calories gotten from this would probably be very low.

I thought about this.  And it is true, all cats eat grass if they can get out to get some.  Perhaps we should have some plant matter in our diet.  My cat eats grass daily and catches prey regularly as well.

As far as cheats go, they are negligible to consider if they happen once a quarter or something.
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2008, 09:26:44 PM »

I eat around 50% fruit and 50% animal foods.

> But really, how many of you abstain from spices and such?

I abstain from all spices and all condiments.
I came from fruitarian and Natural Hygiene teachings so I don't do spices and condiments.
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2008, 09:31:51 PM »

I just stick to fatty meat and fish. No spices, not even salt or pepper. No plant matter, ever.
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2008, 09:31:29 AM »

This was in Wikipedia under Carnivore:
In most cases, some plant material is essential for adequate nutrition, particularly with regard to minerals, vitamins and fiber. Most wild carnivores consume this in the digestive system of their prey.
Many carnivores also eat herbivore dung, presumably to obtain essential nutrients that they could not otherwise obtain, since their dentition and digestive system do not permit efficient processing of vegetable matter.

Now wikipedia is the last word! :Smiley I think this is essentially correct, though.

So, where do you get your plant material?   I don't here anyone claiming to eat uncleaned intestines and stomachs!  Or, uh, dung!  I've had cheese that smelled like cow dung, don't think that counts.

 Man is certainly not an Obligate Carnivore - one that must eat nearly all meat. Some of  you act as if that were true. 

It seems to me to be a little crazy to eat only meat.  It seems the logic is, "I feel so much better on this less unsuitable diet, so it must be right.  This kind of thinking  gets a lot of Vegans  in trouble. 

100% RAF seems to me to be an act of faith just like 100% Veganism.

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So, where do you get your plant material?   I don't here anyone claiming to eat uncleaned intestines and stomachs!  Or, uh, dung!  I've had cheese that smelled like cow dung, don't think that counts.

 Man is certainly not an Obligate Carnivore - one that must eat nearly all meat. Some of  you act as if that were true. 

It seems to me to be a little crazy to eat only meat.  It seems the logic is, "I feel so much better on this less unsuitable diet, so it must be right.  This kind of thinking  gets a lot of Vegans  in trouble. 

100% RAF seems to me to be an act of faith just like 100% Veganism.

John

Just because some of us 'act' as if we are obligate carnivores for short periods does not mean we believe we are obligate carnivores, I've got no idea where you got this.

What do you eat exactly and I want percentages! cooked or uncooked?  which way do you swing, carnivore or vegy? or are blindly following 100% omnivore diet?!

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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2008, 01:16:18 PM »

I'm not pure carni. I love me home made sauerkraut and fermented cauliflower. I also use a little pepper and olive oil for certain organs like kidney. I'll have some berries every now and then but not much at all. They make me fart. That's about it.
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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2008, 09:56:37 PM »

Just because some of us 'act' as if we are obligate carnivores for short periods does not mean we believe we are obligate carnivores, I've got no idea where you got this.

Some people report eating 100% meat for long periods...and talk as if plant material was harming them.

What do you eat exactly and I want percentages! cooked or uncooked? 

 which way do you swing, carnivore or vegy? or are blindly following 100% omnivore diet?!

Andrew
I have eaten 90 - 95% raw for the last year. I  tried 100% raw Vegan 35 years ago, for 6 months, and gave it up. You never see cooked food the same after that.
 Other than raw eggs, I haven't eaten animal products. I  have thought about it and am still thinking about it.  When I eat cooked food it is always socially related. There are no cooked foods I crave.  I find I retain up to 4 lbs of water  if I eat a significant amount of cooked food.  Lately, I have been eating 100% and feel better. I have eaten a lot of raw pineapple lately and it has trimmed my weight  some more. I am too light now - down 28 lbs from when I started high raw.  My strength is good so I don't think I've lost as much lean body mass as my scales claim.  I am looking at changes to  build my weight up some.

As for for "blindly following 100% omnivore", if you mean checking Blood Glucose, I haven't done that.  I know that I didn't tolerate low carb well when I tried it.  I am seriously allergic  to  red meats, so I am limited in what I could eat anyway.  I am not completely blind as to how my body responds. I am at this site,  because I am considering RAF. I am well aware of my personal prejudices and where they come from.  So, I don't think I'm blind.

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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2008, 10:34:00 PM »

I'm not pure carni. I love me home made sauerkraut and fermented cauliflower. I also use a little pepper and olive oil for certain organs like kidney. I'll have some berries every now and then but not much at all. They make me fart. That's about it.

I stopped eating sauerkraut when I realised that my stools, after consuming it, were massively larger than during times I didn't eat sauerkraut. I suspect poor absorption, or just too much fibre in the stuff.
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