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« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2010, 08:22:15 AM » |
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Fresh tea tree oil toothpicks do work to stimulate my saliva like crazy. Only problem is, once the package is opened the oil dissipates rapidly. ...Wouldn't this simple question disprove veganism right there if all their teeth fell out after a few years?
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> "Medicine improved exponentially when the tinkering barber surgeons took over from the high theorists. They just went with what worked, irrespective of why it worked." -Nassim Taleb
> "no one would touch this type of diet unless they'd tried everything else and this diet alone worked" -T.D.
> Tinkering with dairy & gluten elimination worked for me. I found a theory that explained it (Eaton's Paleolithic nutrition), which pointed me toward more tinkering, with more success. -Me
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« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2010, 08:36:20 AM » |
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Yes, but the really committed vegans tend to be impervious to reason.
Which is why i don't know what to say to the most committed ones. I had heard from some vegans on the rawfoods.com message boards that Dr. Price showed the effects of poor nutrition on ribcage and jaw structure, and I just assumed that raw veganism would be even better for this than traditional diets. However, after fruit damaged my teeth so badly, and also after I read Dr. Price's book, I was done with being vegan, period, end of story. I'm in this for my health. People who aren't into studying nutrition and unusual diets for health are as far from me as East from West. It's like we speak a different language. So, to sum up, vegans might as well stay off my board. They have no place here. We are here for our health. |
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« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2010, 12:55:41 PM » |
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Which is why i don't know what to say to the most committed ones. I had heard from some vegans on the rawfoods.com message boards that Dr. Price showed the effects of poor nutrition on ribcage and jaw structure, and I just assumed that raw veganism would be even better for this than traditional diets.
However, after fruit damaged my teeth so badly, and also after I read Dr. Price's book, I was done with being vegan, period, end of story. I'm in this for my health. People who aren't into studying nutrition and unusual diets for health are as far from me as East from West. It's like we speak a different language.
So, to sum up, vegans might as well stay off my board. They have no place here. We are here for our health.
A lot of them are vegans for health aswell. They're just a little misguided.. In our eyes that is |
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« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2010, 06:32:05 PM » |
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A lot of them are vegans for health aswell. They're just a little misguided.. In our eyes that is
Those are the ones that I went to the trouble of posting a little information at a raw vegan forum for after I felt sorry for some, seeing how badly they were doing and how some were getting attacked by the coolaid drinkers for not towing the party line. I didn't debate with anyone, I just shared my experience and answered questions. A few who were doing badly on raw veganism or were already experimenting with raw eggs, fish or meats expressed interest. The main benefit I provided seemed to be in giving additional courage to people who were already starting to question veganism and include some animal foods. By checking in on a couple raw vegan forums and videos (particularly Paul Nison's) now and then I've noticed that there seems to be a recent growing movement of raw vegans incorporating some animal foods for health reasons. Enough people have been doing veganism for 1-10 years or so now that we are seeing quite a few converts back to some animal foods, even among former 100% vegan gurus (such as Paul Nison). |
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> "Medicine improved exponentially when the tinkering barber surgeons took over from the high theorists. They just went with what worked, irrespective of why it worked." -Nassim Taleb
> "no one would touch this type of diet unless they'd tried everything else and this diet alone worked" -T.D.
> Tinkering with dairy & gluten elimination worked for me. I found a theory that explained it (Eaton's Paleolithic nutrition), which pointed me toward more tinkering, with more success. -Me
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« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2010, 06:30:36 AM » |
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Can anyone provide some info on why it would or would not be bad to not brush your teeth whilst eating 'raw ZC'? Further, if there was a problem, would you be able to feel it in plenty of time that you could sort it just by returning to brushing? And how would you tell?
Thanks.
I was hoping something would happen such as the mouth would 'return' to it's natural pH balance, and proceed to 'look after itself', without the intervention of toothpaste.
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« Reply #35 on: July 13, 2010, 03:42:28 PM » |
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Would you like an update from people who stopped brushing their teeth, how is that working out? I'm debating weather i should stop or not, i will keep flossing to remove chunks of meat stuck between teeth.
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« Reply #36 on: July 13, 2010, 06:20:29 PM » |
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I haven't brushed my teeth for months(5/6+ I think, not sure exactly). It's seemed fine so far, I just pick out any food from my teeth after I eat. Only thing is, when I stopped brushing my teeth was only soon after I had started eating joints of raw meat(as opposed to raw steaks, or cooked meat), so initially I wasn't any good at getting the remains from my teeth and I didn't really know if it was important or not, or what would happen if I left it. I had some stuck between the two bottom middle teeth and it left a faint, small yellow stain when I removed it the next day. The stain is still there and I don't know what it is... This was right at the beginning; of course I had no one to advise me that I should just pick out my teeth in front of a mirror with my nails after eating. Not had any other noticeable issues aside from that...
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« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2010, 08:11:29 AM » |
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Throughout my entire life, I have rarely brushed my teeth, mostly only when I was younger and my parents made me. Even then, the most often I ever brushed my teeth was once a day, because I always hated the taste of toothpaste, though I used it when my parents told me to brush my teeth. Now that I am older and my parents aren't always telling me what to do, I hardly ever brush my teeth, nor have I been to the dentist since I was about 5 or 6 years old. The times I felt guilty for not brushing my teeth, I usually brushed using only water. I have never had a cavity or much tooth problems, except that my teeth are a bit on the yellow side, and also more recently I've noticed my breath doesn't smell so great. Because of that I ended up buying some listerine to swish my mouth with and toothpaste to brush with, but I'm afraid that it will kill any of the good bacteria in my mouth along with the bad. I've always had high saliva production though, I am probably constantly swallowing every 10 - 20 seconds.
I don't think not brushing your teeth will do much of anything to your teeth, no matter what your diet. My diet pretty much consists of mostly cooked foods, though I've mostly preferred my food to be more on the undercooked side, with rare steaks and sunny-side-up eggs.. but I do live in America, and eaten my share of overcooked, processed, and fast foods, and drinking plenty of soda.. which is all probably more of a contribution to my yellowish teeth and bad breath.
However, I have lately been wanting to take better care of my teeth, and I was wondering if anyone knew a good store where I could buy some of that miswak? A store which could be found in Southern California?
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I'm pretty new to all this, so please forgive me for any ignorance.
I'm 21, a little under 5'5", and around 110-115lb, no significant health problems other than hyperventilating when exercising (which my doctor said was because of the smog) and acne.
I'd preferably be a carnivore/zero carb or low carb, but since I am not the one who buys the groceries I don't always have much choice.
I live with my dad, so I also have to sneak all my raw meat and raw egg eating.
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