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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2008, 08:43:13 PM »

Are you sure about outrunning a dog Andrew? I saw on safari shows that wild dogs will chase their prey to exhaustion and I would be very surprised to find a human that could keep up 2/3 of the pace of the dogs for 1/2 as long. They can run at near a human sprint for a day or more.

Killing a woolly mammoth in my mind seems like a long distance running operation. Stab it with spears then follow it for a long time.
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2008, 12:36:34 PM »

Nah? I was only thinking of domestic dogs. They can out sprint me but over time/distance not a chance!

We are  persistence hunters for sure...hardly any hair, we can run/walk for hours on end, we sweat (so can run through the heat of the day)



 
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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2008, 11:04:27 PM »

Hey guys, I think wolves are built for endurance, just like humans. The forward pointing face and the breathing out of the mouth to get more oxygen is pretty similar.
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2008, 04:33:00 AM »

One of the problems with Dogs and endurance is that they can't sweat.  In order to cool themselves down they need to pant, evaporating water from their tongues.  AFAIK, they are unable to pant while running and need to come to a stop.
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2008, 08:10:02 AM »

One of the problems with Dogs and endurance is that they can't sweat.  In order to cool themselves down they need to pant, evaporating water from their tongues.  AFAIK, they are unable to pant while running and need to come to a stop.

Yeah that's what I thought. Humans are better endurance runners than dogs and horses, we can easily run further, speed up and slow down without expending too much energy can  and can sweat while running through the heat of the day while animals must stop and pant. We can chase them down until they over heat and and collapse.

http://www.physorg.com/news95954919.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_hunting

Sounds cruel but we used to chase down sheep like that on our farm when I was a kid.

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« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2008, 04:14:55 PM »

From wikipedia ...
"Cursorial hunting is a hunting strategy practised by animals that are much slower over short distances than their quarry but have superior endurance over long distances.

The hunters will pursue at a relatively measured pace a targeted quarry which in response will make short but high energy sprints to escape. Eventually the relentless pursuit will exhaust the quarry allowing it to be brought down by its pursuers.

 
Wolves, hyenas, lungless spiders and humans are all animals that are well adapted to using this hunting strategy."

You've never seen a dog loping in the heat with his tongue hanging out?  If he's breathing, it still helps cool him.
Also, most of our potential prey can also sweat, it's just a matter of how much.  Persistence hunting usually seems to suggest heat, but you can also kill animals if you can get them to run hard enough to sweat in the cold.

Of course, as crappy a runner as I am, that may not get tested very soon.

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