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« on: July 19, 2008, 06:25:40 AM » |
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Ones with anti-nutrients and other harmful things.. Make a list someone. I'm not addicted to any food and can whip anything out of my diet that will always have potentially harmful toxins or other things. Someone make a list please...  |
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2008, 06:32:37 AM » |
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well, since you're asking...
however, please keep in mind this quote: "Effect on humans and animals is based on laboratory tests using toxin concentrations much higher than the concentrations normally found in food."
I don't believe that all the things on this list are harmful. Obviously the ones that aren't paleo I do, but not things like spinach, tomato, stone fruits, "most fruits", etc...
Toxin family: Examples of occurence in plants: Effects on humans and animals:
Cyanogenic glycosides...Sweet potatoes, stone fruits, lima beans...Gastrointestinal inflammation; inhibition of cellular respiration
Glulcosinolates...Rape (canola), mustard, radish, cabbage, peanut, soybean, onion...Goiter; impaired metabolism; reduced iodine uptake; decreased protein digestion
Glycoalkaloids...Potato, tomato...Depressed central nervous system; kidney inflammation; carcinogenic; birth defects; reduced iron uptake
Gossypol...Cottonseed...Reduced iron uptake; spermicidal; carcinogenic
Lectins...Most cereals, soybeans, other beans, potatoes...Intestinal inflammation; decreased nutrient uptake/absorption
Oxalate...Spinach, rhubarb, tomato...Reduces solubility of calcium, iron, and zinc
Phenols...Most fruits and vegetables, cereals, soybean, potato, tea, coffee...Destroys thiamine; raises cholesterol; estrogen-mimic
Coumarins...Celery, parsley, parsnips, figs...Light-activated carcinogens; skin irritation
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2008, 06:37:03 AM » |
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I did hear about rhubarb before. Thanks for the list.  |
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2008, 06:39:20 AM » |
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Ones with anti-nutrients and other harmful things.. Make a list someone. I'm not addicted to any food and can whip anything out of my diet that will always have potentially harmful toxins or other things. Someone make a list please... Why don't we all make a list together, eh? Keith has a good start. Shall we keep it restricted to commonly agreed to paleo foods? And let's keep anaphylactic responses, unique to rare cases (like strawberry or celery allergy) off the list, shall we? eggplant - contains nicotinoid alkaloids |
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2008, 06:43:03 AM » |
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Why don't we all make a list together, eh? Keith has a good start. Shall we keep it restricted to commonly agreed to paleo foods? And let's keep anaphylactic responses, unique to rare cases (like strawberry or celery allergy) off the list, shall we?
eggplant - contains nicotinoid alkaloids
Darn, I'm low on info... :  But I agree no super rare allergy foods. If mentioned make sure you clearly state its harmful only if your allergic. |
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2008, 06:50:45 AM » |
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These are taken from the Wai site (i didn't include all the blatantly non-paleo ones). It does say on the website that if you find you can easily digest certain vegetables that you can eat those. Take that for what it's worth I guess.
- Vegetables contain more pentosanes and hexosanes, which are partly bacterially decomposed in the colon, and inhibit digestion. Brussel sprouts, beetroot, parsley, celeriac, kale, broccoli and peas contain most of these special carbohydrates.
- Some vegetables contain much oxalic acid, which binds to minerals easily. Mangold, rhubarb, spinach, purslane, bamboo shoots and beetroot contain most of these special carbohydrates.
- Cabbages (like broccoli and cauliflower), radish and garden cress contain glucosinolates, which can originate mildly toxic (to the thyroid) thiocyanate.
- Onions contain much mutagenic quercetine (a flavonoid), and (like garlic)
dialkyloligosulphides, inhibiting iodide absorption.
- Mushrooms easily absorb damaging cadmium and arsenium, and contain alkaloids which inhibit digestion and cause gripes. Many people have no problem at all eating mushrooms however.
- Lamb's lettuce contains caffeic acid, which easily binds nutrients.
- Rhubarb can contain mutagenic emodine.
- Parsley, celeriac, dill and fennel can contain small amounts of furocoumarines (psoralenes) that can become tumor-stimulating when taken in higher amounts.
- Cacao, nutmeg, laurel, mace, anise, black pepper and ginger can contain tiny amounts of cancerous safrol.
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2008, 05:43:10 PM » |
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All nightshades: tomato, potatoe, eggplant, bell peppers, tobacco
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2008, 10:48:38 PM » |
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I think it would be much easier to list ALL NON-Harmful Plant Products... if there exist any...
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It’s time to Eat Like An Animal!
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2008, 12:05:40 AM » |
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This is crazy; and to think there are thousands of books out there about how bad meat is for you and how healthy plants are. It just goes to show that people will believe anything, because the issue couldn't be in more diametric opposition than this.
However I still eat plants occasionally, but much less than before. I have a garden where I grow tomatoes, squash, basil, dill, various peppers, carrots and lettuce. Most of it I have been giving away but I've eaten a few tomatoes.
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2008, 12:34:52 AM » |
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This is crazy; and to think there are thousands of books out there about how bad meat is for you and how healthy plants are. It just goes to show that people will believe anything, because the issue couldn't be in more diametric opposition than this.
However I still eat plants occasionally, but much less than before. I have a garden where I grow tomatoes, squash, basil, dill, various peppers, carrots and lettuce. Most of it I have been giving away but I've eaten a few tomatoes.
I guess tomatoes might be one fruit (part of plant that contains the seed) you might not want to eat. |
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