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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2008, 12:38:52 AM » |
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Apple (Malus domestica) Seeds contain cyanogenic glycosides; although the amount found in most apples won't kill a person, with enough seeds, one could die from it. Cherry (Prunus cerasus), as well as other species (Prunus spp) such as peach (Prunus persica), plum (Prunus domestica), almond (Prunus dulcis) and apricot (Prunus armeniaca). Leaves and seeds contain cyanogenic glycosides Potato (Solanum tuberosum) Foliage and green-tinged tubers are toxic, containing the glycoalkaloid solanine, which develops as a result of exposure to light. Causes intense digestive disturbances, nervous symptoms. Rhubarb (Rheum rhaponticum) Leaf blades, but not petioles, contain oxalic acid salts, causing kidney disorders, convulsions, coma. Rarely fatal. Tomato (Solanum lycopersicum) Foliage and vines contain alkaloid poisons which cause digestive upset and nervous excitement
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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2008, 03:31:07 AM » |
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Apple (Malus domestica) Seeds contain cyanogenic glycosides; although the amount found in most apples won't kill a person, with enough seeds, one could die from it. Cherry (Prunus cerasus), as well as other species (Prunus spp) such as peach (Prunus persica), plum (Prunus domestica), almond (Prunus dulcis) and apricot (Prunus armeniaca). Leaves and seeds contain cyanogenic glycosides
Seeds and stones usually are not consumed, though. If something like an apple seed gets swallowed, it becomes encased in manure and spread to a new area where it might sprout. That's just one of the symbiotic ways we plants and animals exist. I'd like to see anyone chew up a peach stone without damaging his mouth.
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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2008, 01:39:46 PM » |
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Okay, so most fruits are fine if you don't eat the seed/pit.
Are there ANY plants/vegetables that don't have some kind of toxin or whatever? (although I imagine most of these are on such a low level, that with a good diet it wouldn't matter if you ate it on occasion)
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« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2008, 02:25:29 PM » |
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I eat salad green leafy stuff and celery.
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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2008, 05:08:42 PM » |
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Most fruit are excessively sweet so high levels of fructose could be counted as a poison. A lot of people are allergic to fruit like strawberries and oranges like myself, so there's something poisonous in them which causes the body to react and detox. I know Satya mentioned that fruits which people are allergic to shouldn't be counted in this thread but I think its important to point out that allergies/ anaphylactic reactions happen for a reason. The body doesn't like this plant matter being in the body and removes them as fast as possible.
I always hear people being allergic to non paleo foods such as dairy/ eggs/ peanuts/ wheat/ oranges/ strawberries/ bananas/ fish but I don't hear of people being allergic to paleo foods such as raw beef or raw beef suet.
I can think of an exception to what I stated above, shellfish! I wonder whats in shell fish which causes problems?
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« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2008, 05:47:06 PM » |
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I've never heard of a Filipino who was allergic to bananas. Those things grow in tons non-stop in our islands. Maybe our ancestors lived off of them bananas as staples.
I would be poisoned if I ate those cavendish bananas being factory farmed (pesticides, chemical fertilized) by Dole and Del Monte in the Philippines. These cavendish were recently imported from I don't know where. We natives don't eat these cavendish, cultivated stuff, they look wierd looking so "perfect", and besides, they taste bland, good for the pigs and banana ketchup, but not for filipino human consumption. They do export this stuff to other countries.
These are the bananas you may be talking about. Factory Farmed cavendish bananas are no good.
Latundan bananas are high potassium bananas and has medicinal value. Even hospital doctors in Manila prescribe it instead of drugs.
For people who need carbs, the saba and lakatan variety are higher quality carbs and non-constipating, unlike the cooked starches.
The best bananas, and the best fruits for that matter are tree-ripened, their mineral absorption is complete.
I live in a tropical country and fruits grow all year round, we just go eat with the seasons. Our fruits are not excessively sweet. Their different tastes are a testament to their identity. Fruit is not about being sweet. You must be unfortunate that the fruit you receive in your part of the world are the wrong kinds of fruit.
We must be fair in compairing bad food.
When raw vegans say meat eating is bad, they point to cooked, condimented, factory farmed animals. When carnivores say fruit eating is bad, they point to factory farmed, non-organic, non-tree ripened fruit.
I'm an omnivore so I just choose the best from all the Raw Paleo Diet has to offer. The best organic / wild ocean or land animals. The best tree ripened, organic, wild raw fruit. The best organic vegetables that can be eaten raw.
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« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2008, 05:58:01 PM » |
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Hey Edwin,
I'm hearing you for sure! I'm slightly anti-fruit but as with you, I'm definitely pro organic/grass fed/wild etc
Andrew
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« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2008, 06:22:26 PM » |
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I can think of an exception to what I stated above, shellfish! I wonder whats in shell fish which causes problems?
I experimented with oysters and green mussels we grow in Cavite province near Manila... very bad, very dirty. When I experimented with them I was prepared. I isolate them in my experiment. 1 full day, just oysters. One full day, just mussels. I came prepared with my powerful colon cleanser and my tree iodine to save me from poisoning. Yup, both times they made me feel bad. Puked and pooped my troubles away the very night, awful stuff. That was pollution talking. Grown in polluted waters. The safe oysters and mussels come from Iloilo and other far away provinces where the water is clean. I eat them shellfish in expensive restaurants where they trust their sources and they proudly have a banner ad that says: Oyster Bar. Helps increase your sperm count. I did lab measurements years ago and my sperm count rose from 100 million / ml to 300 million / ml. I'm sure Australian and New Zealand waters may be cleaner as well. I have a customer with the website http://www.lyprinolusa.com and they sell supplements from green mussel oil from new zealand. Helps the sick people who are fat deprived. These are in effect FAT SUPPLEMENTS. It is a combination of green mussel oil and extra virgin olive oil.
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« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2008, 08:00:04 PM » |
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Virus contaminated Oysters from France (Switzerland has import stop) http://tinyurl.com/576qhtNicola
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« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2008, 09:50:58 PM » |
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We must be fair in compairing bad food.
When raw vegans say meat eating is bad, they point to cooked, condimented, factory farmed animals. When carnivores say fruit eating is bad, they point to factory farmed, non-organic, non-tree ripened fruit.
I'm an omnivore so I just choose the best from all the Raw Paleo Diet has to offer. The best organic / wild ocean or land animals. The best tree ripened, organic, wild raw fruit. The best organic vegetables that can be eaten raw.
Beautifully written, goodsamaritan! Sometimes I feel like it's the carnivores v. the omnivores with everyone claiming their diet best and the other somehow poisonous or wrong. However, there is no orthodox way of eating for every single person! Each of us is experimenting to find what works within our lives. If that means you eat only animals, then fine. If that means that you eat more fruit, then fine. Do what works for you as an individual, because we are unique in many ways.
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