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« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2008, 12:55:14 AM »



As regards dairy, it's been suggested by a few Fallonites et al, that dairy might have been consumed in the Palaeolithic. This seems unlikely as cattle, according to online sources, were only domesticated at around 8,000 BC, well into the Neolithic era.


What about other animals. I was watching a story on the black plag and they said mongals drank horse milk. Even though that too was into the neolithic period.
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« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2008, 01:13:16 AM »

The only animals domesticated in the Palaeolithic were dogs(c.15,000 BC, 5,000 years into the Palaeolithic era).

*Forgot - sheep and goats were domesticated right at the transition between the Neolithic and the Palaeolithic:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestication#Approximate_dates_and_locations_of_original_domestication

Anyway, until the Neolithic came round, one can safely assume that the only dairy drunk was other's milk.
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« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2008, 02:43:52 AM »

Early hominid utilisation of fish resources and implications for seasonality and behaviour
Stewart, KM
Journal of Human Evolution [J. HUM. EVOL.]. Vol. 27, no. 1-3, pp. 229-245. 1994.

While research into the diet and subsistence of early hominids has focussed primarily on medium to large size mammals, modern ethnographic and dietary evidence suggests that other food sources are of equal or greater importance in hunter-gatherer diets, particularly in seasonally stressful times of year. Fish is examined in this paper as an alternative food source for early hominids. Nutritional, ecological and ethnographic evidence indicates that fish would be a seasonally available, nutritious and easy to procure alternative food source for early hominids, particularly during periods when other food sources may be of poor quality. Carnivores and non-human primates rely on fish as a seasonal resource, and archaeological findings also document the importance of fish for Late Pleistocene hominid groups. Fish remains are associated with many early hominid sites, and five sites at Olduvai Gorge are examined here in detail. The patterns of fish exploitation seen in Late Pleistocene archaeological sites are manifested in three of the Olduvai Gorge sites, making a strong, although not absolute, case for early hominid fish procurement. The implications for early hominid behaviour of fish procurement are several, and include timing of the early hominid seasonal round to exploit spawning or stranded fish, and group size larger than the nuclear family unit, with greater social interaction. Further investigation must also be conducted on the possible differences in procurement strategy between the hominid species at FLKNN (Homo habilis) and BK (presumed H. erectus).
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Oceans, Islands, and Coasts: Current Perspectives on the Role of the Sea in Human Prehistory
Authors: Jon M. Erlandson a; Scott M. Fitzpatrick b
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a Department of Anthropology and Museum of Natural and Cultural History, University of Oregon, Eugene, Oregon, USA

b Department of Sociology and Anthropology, North Carolina State University, Raleigh, North Carolina, USA
DOI: 10.1080/15564890600639504
Published in:  The Journal of Island and Coastal Archaeology, Volume 1, Issue 1 July 2006 , pages 5 - 32

Abstract
Archaeological studies of island and coastal societies have advanced significantly over the years. Long marginalized as relatively recent developments, coastal, maritime, and island adaptations are now recognized as having a much longer and more complex history. Consequently, the archaeology of island and coastal societies has become increasingly relevant to a variety of important anthropological and historical topics. In this paper, we discuss some current issues in island and coastal archaeology, including: (1) the antiquity of coastal adaptations and maritime migrations; (2) variations in marine or coastal productivity; (3) the development of specialized maritime technologies and capabilities; (4) underwater archaeology and drowned terrestrial landscapes; (5) cultural responses to insularity, isolation, and circumscription; (6) cultural contacts and historical processes; (7) human impacts and historical ecology in island and coastal ecosystems; and (8.) the conservation and management of island and coastal sites.
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The idea that fishing is somehow new is an androcentric remnant of the past.
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« Reply #43 on: August 10, 2008, 06:43:19 PM »

Bad Bad Bananas!

I wondered why bananas made under my chin itchy (a sure sign of an allergy)
Bananas can give you a high dose of histidine and histimine, they also contain pyridoxine glycosides which are B6 blockers.

This was taken from the the website Plant Poisions and Rotten stuff.

http://blog.plantpoisonsandrottenstuff.info/2006/09/24/gone-bananas/

I've also heard that a lot of people have trouble digesting bananas, I know my brother can only eat green bananas.
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« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2008, 04:55:51 AM »

Bad Bad Bananas!


I've also heard that a lot of people have trouble digesting bananas, I know my brother can only eat green bananas.
I would never eat a green banana, oh well, I stopped eating bananas anyway, only eating hand picked vegetation and locally grown foods .
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« Reply #45 on: August 13, 2008, 11:46:56 AM »

The idea that fishing is somehow new is an androcentric remnant of the past.

Considering I'm from a place where there is almost no fishing, I know there are certain things about that I would question, but I can certainly see people at almost any stage of evolution eating fish.

But what does that have to do with the dudes? 



I guess this is a little off topic, sorry.
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« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2008, 10:45:22 PM »

Considering I'm from a place where there is almost no fishing, I know there are certain things about that I would question, but I can certainly see people at almost any stage of evolution eating fish.

But what does that have to do with the dudes? 

Hi Dan,

Thanks for hitting me up on this very controversial statement.

Bias in science is nothing new.  For instance, the dates for anthropogenic fire and language in hominids were originally placed much further back in time, as the idea of descending from lower primates was not very pleasant in the early 20th century (and still causes major discomfort in some people).  Also, there is this androcentric notion that women developed rounded hips to attract mates, all the while ignoring the fact that the evolving bigger brain of the growing fetus required a larger space for birth! 

The same is true when considering fishing, I believe.  Even bears and cats can fish, so it's importance is often downplayed when more macho pursuits such as hunting large game are concerned, especially since for smaller fish and shellfish, not much in the way of technology is required.  Or is it?  Fish are in another medium; a bear can catch salmon with his claw.  Women may well have gathered the shellfish and other tidal dwellers near the shores of oceans, rivers and lakes, originally.  Of course, a shore is required for fishing. 

I would have to look into that further, but I do know that Weston Price found that even far inland tribes would go to the coast, gather/fish and dry seafoods for the nutrients they contain.
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« Reply #47 on: August 19, 2008, 08:34:19 AM »

Also, there is this androcentric notion that women developed rounded hips to attract mates, all the while ignoring the fact that the evolving bigger brain of the growing fetus required a larger space for birth!

I thought it was that men became attracted to this feature during evolution as women who had it had more healthy offspring. Usually animals are attracted to features that have a purpose, stuff like peacock feathers is not the norm from what I can tell, stuff with just a sexual purpose.
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« Reply #48 on: August 19, 2008, 09:50:27 AM »

Aren't the hips and breasts where a girls omega 3's are stored? I also saw a story where curvy girls were claimed to be more intelligent...sexy and smart!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-493004/Sexy-AND-smart-Why-hourglass-figure-means-brains-beauty.html

Abdomin fat = Omega 6
Hip fat = omega 3

omega 3's are also stored in mens hips too. I've notice fat moved to my upper body more and away from my stomach and I think Craig mentioned something like this too. Ladies?





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« Reply #49 on: August 22, 2008, 09:36:25 AM »

I thought it was that men became attracted to this feature during evolution as women who had it had more healthy offspring. Usually animals are attracted to features that have a purpose, stuff like peacock feathers is not the norm from what I can tell, stuff with just a sexual purpose.

Right, purpose tends to bring attraction, attraction does not always give purpose.  Maybe.  What do you think of that statement?
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