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« on: July 30, 2008, 07:35:37 PM »

First, let me say that in the short time I've been reading this site, I've really enjoyed it. Some very knowledgable folks here.

Also, I'll state that I DO think that eating a raw diet is almost certainly the healthiest way of eating we have availible to us; but, being the way I am, I truly doubt that I'd ever "go raw". It's that "dietary socialisation" that the Bear talks about, I suppose  Cheesy

Anyway, my question: how healthy do you all see a carnivorous diet with cooked meat would be? A fellow named Charles at Jimmy Moore's site is following such, and seems to enjoy excellent health, and he makes a good argument that one will still reap much benefit from a non-raw zero carb diet.
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2008, 10:21:27 PM »

If you look at the data(re HCAs/AGES/NSAs and PAHs), you'll find that cooked animal food is worse than cooked plant-food in its effect(partly because most animal-food is eaten well-cooked, while a lot of plant-food is either eaten raw or lightly-steamed). In short, a zero- or near-zero carb cooked diet  would invariably lead to a heart-attack or worse in the long run(though carb-related conditions would not happen) - it's true that the Eskimos following their traditional diet centuries ago didn't suffer from heart-disease, but they had several things going for them:- 1) A heavy amount of daily exercise and 2) a diet extremely rich in omega-3 fatty-acids from wild game such as seals, much of which meat was eaten raw(especially the organ-meats which are much higher in nutrients than the muscle-meats).

My advice would be for you to  compromise by going in for a high-fat cooked palaeolithic diet, according to the usual ratios(ie 65% animal food/35% plant-food). Try to eat the plant-food in raw form as it's more socially acceptable to do that, and cook your animal-food only minimally. Indeed, many RPDers are forced into social situations from time to time where they have to eat cooked-food so they usually tell people to just heat the meat for 10 seconds on both sides, thus leaving the inside more or less raw.
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2008, 10:54:42 PM »

Anyway, my question: how healthy do you all see a carnivorous diet with cooked meat would be? A fellow named Charles at Jimmy Moore's site is following such, and seems to enjoy excellent health, and he makes a good argument that one will still reap much benefit from a non-raw zero carb diet.

All meat?  All cooked?  You will miss out on vitamin C, B-6 and others on such a plan.  Not to mention the changes in protein, loss of enzymes, etc.  Is every meal every day a major social event?  If not, why not try some raw foods as well?  That's how I do it (though I eat mostly raw foods).  Besides, raw foods like sushi and sashimi are very chic just now.  Heck, steak tartare is also very fashionable.  Why the fear of raw meat?  It can be done socially, though perhaps not always.

I prefer raw meat for the most part.  Of course, I eat raw plants too, so I get more vitamin C from that.  I have a family, and I have finally broken down resistance to raw meat from the one member who had objected.  Yippee!!!  I am not forcing an all raw plan on my family all the time, mind you, but you might find yourself craving raw meat if you ever get around to trying it.  I find raw lamb, beef and fish to be far superior in flavor and the feelings they produce in my body than anything cooked.
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