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« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2010, 10:13:24 PM » |
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Do you drink it? Or apply it to your skin? Or both? I know people who put it on their skin and nails, and of course people who drink it in (gad awful sounding to me) flushes.
The main thing is to eat lots of fat, especially saturated and monounsaturated, since those make up the subcutaneous fat beneath the skin, apparently in about a 50-50 ratio. I find applying fat to the skin to be much less effective. External fat is most efficiently applied in wind-exposed areas like the forehead and water-exposed areas like the hands. |
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> "no one would touch this type of diet unless they'd tried everything else and this diet alone worked" -T.D.
> Tinkering with dairy & gluten elimination worked for me. I found a theory that explained it (Eaton's Paleolithic nutrition), which pointed me toward more tinkering, with more success. -Me
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« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2010, 02:51:30 AM » |
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External fat is most efficiently applied in wind-exposed areas like the forehead and water-exposed areas like the hands. That's where I get dry in the Winter mostly, my hands and my lips. It it gets bitter windy cold, I'll apply fat. |
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« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2010, 04:06:23 AM » |
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If you consider cold as a therapy, you should move here. It`s winter around the year.  In their newest TV-program, Extreme Dudesons (group of fool finnish people) competed who dives the longest way under ice, naked. Besides that, they competed who survives the longest time in freezing frost (almost -30), naked again. OT. |
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« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2010, 10:11:41 PM » |
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If you consider cold as a therapy, you should move here. It`s winter around the year. In their newest TV-program, Extreme Dudesons (group of fool finnish people) competed who dives the longest way under ice, naked. Besides that, they competed who survives the longest time in freezing frost (almost -30), naked again. OT. No doubt a continuation of The Polar Bear Club. http://www-ssc.igpp.ucla.edu/~wgoedeck/polarbear/. We have received many inquiries about other Polar Bear Clubs and related topics. Please submit any information about clubs that you might know about to trygveb@powertech.no so that we can both add and update information. We will credit contributors, unless requested not to do so. There is a similar list on Trygve Bauge's website, Links to icebathing clubs world wide . # Belgium, Boom. ROYAL SWIMMING CLUB "DE IJSBEREN" ("THE POLAR BEARS"). During wintertime the swimming-pool of Boom (15 km south of Antwerp) is open, but not heated. Along with the New Year's Day Plunge, this pool is open 4 days a week for regular ice swimmers. # Ottawa Polar Bear Club, Canada. This is an offshoot of the Rideau Osgoode Karate Club. Come join us on January 1st 1998, for this newly created yearly event, and help raise funds for the Children Hospital of Eastern Ontario. Contact Albert Ethier. # Perth, Ontario, in Canada (about 1 hr west of Ottawa). There are several polar bear swims on Jan 1st in and around Ottawa, as reported by Don Clinton (12/30/98). # Harbin, China. There is the annual winter Ice Carving Festival in this northeast city of China, also known as "Moscow of the Orient", and "Ice City". The ice-carved sculptures are very elaborate. Part of the festival includes trained winter swimmers partaking in aquatic shows. For more information: http://www.netten.com/harbin.htm http://visit-china-97.com/4season/winter.htm#2 http://134.190.5.41/harbin/harbin.html# Denmark has several clubs including one in Helsingør (Source: Trygve Bauge). # Finland has thousands of saunas and icebathers associated with most of these (Trygve Bauge). # The Boulder Polar Bear Club, Colorado. (Listed here for completeness.)The club was founded in 1983 by: Trygve Bauge , at trygveb@powertech.no The club has since 1994 been run by: Walter Goedecke, at wgoedeck@mines.edu. The club's main event is the New Year's day dip at which 200-250 icebathers participate each year. # Western Illinois University, in Macomb, Illinois. A new polar bear club to tentatively start in Macomb, by Brad Nadziejko # North Beach Maryland Polar Swim Club, North Beach, Maryland. This was the first plunge (1998) held at North Beach, on the Chesapeake Bay. There were about 20 participants, and 150 onlookers. Next year we hope to have more participants, many said they'd bring a friend. Reported by Roy Crockett, at: roy@chesapeake.net# The Hampton Chapter of the Polar Bear Club, an offshoot of the Midnight Swimmers , Hampton, New Hampshire. Yes, there is also a web page, so check it out! Founded this year (1998) by Dan Edgar. |
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RawZi
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« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2010, 10:26:43 PM » |
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I have pale Irish skin that was also very dry and flaky in areas. Cooling down my showers only helped a very tiny bit. The dry skin didn't clear until I eliminated the last of the carbs from my diet. I've had a number of Irish friends that don't seem to ever eat vegetables, their families too. Quite a number seem to have wheat, sugar and dairy problems. Between blond and red hair, blue and green eyes, blushing cheeks, maybe they don't need to green their diets as they are colorful and animated enough already? I cut down on the number of salads I had eaten in childhood. I did some blending (energy soupTM). That was better for me. Steamed, sauteed, stewed or stir fried veges seems to help (less difficulty cause fiber is disintegrated). Then back to more green juicing (less green fiber yet). Greens are supposed to boost immunities. Boosting immunities doesn't seem to help me, IMO. I don't juice every day now. I used to think I could live on literally vegetables. Maybe I was addicted to green and fiber or something? Anyway, I'm thinking of the uctds.info site you gave earlier and skin flaking you just mentioned now. I think we know the connective tissue disorders involve food sensitivities. I'm also thinking of Chinese 5 phase color theory. The body seeks health and balance. A way to safely safe bet with many people is to get all five color groups in every meal. Depending on the person's constitution, some color groups may be better left out. I'm just thinking a little. I think it's bedtime. See you tomorrow, same bat channel. |
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« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2010, 03:21:25 AM » |
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I would be very careful re ascribing silly traits to irish-descended peoples. I have a very heavy amount of Irish ancestry and have visited Irish people in Ireland often. Most had no or very little access to plant-foods most of the time, raw or cooked, and looked very unhealthy during my visits.
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« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2010, 03:30:25 AM » |
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I would be very careful re ascribing silly traits to irish-descended peoples. I have a very heavy amount of Irish ancestry and have visited Irish people in Ireland often. Most had no or very little access to plant-foods most of the time, raw or cooked, and looked very unhealthy during my visits. What kind of carb foods did they eat? Potatoes? In the realm of root vegetables, I find that to be a particularly unhealthy one. |
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« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2010, 03:47:50 AM » |
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What kind of carb foods did they eat? Potatoes? In the realm of root vegetables, I find that to be a particularly unhealthy one.
Sure, potatoes, but also salads/seaweeds etc. |
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« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2010, 08:20:20 AM » |
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... I have a very heavy amount of Irish ancestry and have visited Irish people in Ireland often. Most had no or very little access to plant-foods most of the time, raw or cooked, and looked very unhealthy during my visits.
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What kind of carb foods did they eat? Potatoes? In the realm of root vegetables, I find that to be a particularly unhealthy one.>>
Sure, potatoes, but also salads/seaweeds etc. So Tyler, are you saying that the Irish have "no or very little access to" potatoes, salads, seaweeds and other plant foods "most of the time, raw or cooked" or are you not counting potatoes, salads and seaweeds as plant foods? And what about oils, butters, cakes and biscuits, cereals and breads, sweets, soft drinks, crisps and chips? Any chance they eat any of that stuff and that it might contribute to their poor health? |
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« Last Edit: January 30, 2010, 09:28:29 AM by PaleoPhil »
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> "Medicine improved exponentially when the tinkering barber surgeons took over from the high theorists. They just went with what worked, irrespective of why it worked." -Nassim Taleb
> "no one would touch this type of diet unless they'd tried everything else and this diet alone worked" -T.D.
> Tinkering with dairy & gluten elimination worked for me. I found a theory that explained it (Eaton's Paleolithic nutrition), which pointed me toward more tinkering, with more success. -Me
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« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2010, 11:42:59 AM » |
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Oh sure, they ate refined foods. It's just they rarely ate unrefined plant foods such as raw salads/raw fruits etc. They ate plenty of cooked meats.
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