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« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2010, 09:49:38 PM »

I've been able to increase my water intake some as I eat more fat (this adds a touch of ketone sweetness to the water) and as I think I get more used to consuming water (not sure what's at work behind that, though). Have you experienced either of these things, Lex?

Can't say that I've noticed either effect, but then I'm not particularly sensitive to stuff like this.  Now if you gave me a candy bar or a soft drink I'd probably notice the sweetness. I'm amazed when people drink something like wine and comment on the rich full body with complex overtones of lavender and a hint of cinnamon.  To me it all tastes like spoiled grape juice and is scarcely distinguishable from cheap vinegar.

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« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2010, 10:23:45 PM »

... wine and comment on the rich full body with complex overtones of lavender and a hint of cinnamon.  To me it all tastes like spoiled grape juice and is scarcely distinguishable from cheap vinegar.

    I'm fine with a little bit of raw carbs, but bottled grape juice, apple juice, wine any variety etc or any other liquors taste disgusting.  It's great we have a choice though.  When I was a kid, at least grape juice was better than orange juice or milk.  I didn't have the opportunity to know other diets existed (except the school lunch room om bologna and 'sponge' pizza).  We are blessed to have all this knowledge here on this forum, everyone sharing.  

    When starting primal diet eating cultured butter, cultured cream, raw meat, celery juice, etc, after a (raw) egg, water tasted sweet.  Anything tasted sweet and lemons tasted sweet anytime.  It was good, as I disliked the taste of water before that.
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« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2010, 06:31:58 AM »

Yes, that has been my experience as well.
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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2010, 07:21:28 AM »

Yes, the sweetness of water on a high animal-fat diet due to some ketone spillage into the saliva, and presumably knowledge passed down the generations to avoid illness, are so far the explanations I can think of for the high consumption of water by Inuit. There may be other reasons as well. It's total speculation on my part, but I'm guessing that eating enough fat to produce a small amount of ketones so that water is slightly sweet may be an optimal level for someone on a VLC, ZC or carnivore diet, so as to encourage the right amount of water consumption. This could be a temporary effect, though, as over time it takes increasing amounts of fat to produce a very slightly sweet taste in my saliva and water, whereas early on less fat produced a very strong sweet taste.

Well I always have this sweet taste in my mouth and I notice it a lot - not just when I drink water! I thought it was the body making carbs (carbs...sweet) and I tend to feel guilty - that I don't need to eat if my whole system is so sweet. I hope we are doing the right thing...I mean I get to believe the whole time that this is not healthy - not a balanced diet; no fiber (my Dad).

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« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2010, 09:42:22 AM »

I recently began to have a nasty sweet aftertaste in the back of the mouth after drinking my organic Colombian coffee, also from the Maubesse (Timor). Tried a (proven safe) commercial coffee, there's less of that taste.

I like the idea that the taste is caused by ketone bodies, but have no idea why coffee should do this, or what it means.
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« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2010, 09:50:34 AM »

I mean I get to believe the whole time that this is not healthy - not a balanced diet; no fiber (my Dad).

    You're not a little girl now, you are a sensitive and intelligent woman.  I'm sure he wants the best for you.  No disrespect to him.  You are very probably in a better position to know what foods are working and don't work for you.
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« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2010, 10:14:03 AM »

I recently began to have a nasty sweet aftertaste in the back of the mouth after drinking my organic Colombian coffee, also from the Maubesse (Timor). Tried a (proven safe) commercial coffee, there's less of that taste.
It lasts for hours.

I like the idea that the taste is caused by ketone bodies, but have no idea why coffee should do this, or what it means.
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« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2010, 07:35:18 PM »

I recently began to have a nasty sweet aftertaste in the back of the mouth after drinking my organic Colombian coffee, also from the Maubesse (Timor). Tried a (proven safe) commercial coffee, there's less of that taste.

I like the idea that the taste is caused by ketone bodies, but have no idea why coffee should do this, or what it means.
Yes, coffee tastes sweet to me now also. It used to taste bitter to me before I changed to carnivore. I think it's the combination of not being used to sugars and carbs plus some ketones.


Nicola, you could show your father the video "Fiber Menace" that is on this forum somewhere.
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« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2010, 09:03:21 PM »

Nicola, you could show your father the video "Fiber Menace" that is on this forum somewhere.

Nicola's father isn't the problem. From her posts it's clear even she isn't convinced that RPD is a healthy way of eating.
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« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2010, 09:43:58 PM »

She has healthy doubts.  I think that's fine.
I'm ready to change any time when the need arises.
So far omnivore meat + hydrating fruit is working great for me.
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