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« on: January 25, 2010, 12:07:33 PM »

I imagine most people here, are here because they had some form of health problems. I read tylers testimonial thing and a lot of it coincided with what my wife was going through re. adrenal burnout/thyroid problems.  She has been eating a pretty much raw zero carb diet for about 10 months now and while things are miles above what they were she still has a lot of problems.  Low energy is still pretty common even though she has way more energy than before, Dizzyness and lightheadedness is another common problem, like at least a few dizzy spells every day. I imagine it has something to do with blood pressure.  Those are the two major things that we are wondering about and if anybody has had these symptoms (if you have thyroid/adrenal issues im sure you have) and if/how long it took eating raw for these symptoms go to away.

We have used a lot of different suppliments but pretty much the only things we are using right now is Dr. Rons adrenals/thyroid and ive got her to take betaine HCL with her meals to help burn up her food better since she has always had digestive problems that we have tried all kinds of stuff to help but havent found much worked. 

TL:DR; How long did it take eating RAF to heal your body and any ideas on something that we might not be doing that we could?
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2010, 12:37:27 PM »

Dizzyness and lightheadedness is another common problem, like at least a few dizzy spells every day. I imagine it has something to do with blood pressure. 

It was so for me. Turned out to be the first symptoms of terminal heart disease, which was reduced in severity by raw paleo, but never got rid of it (remission) until I went strict raw zero carb.

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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2010, 12:55:17 PM »

I imagine most people here, are here because they had some form of health problems. I read tylers testimonial thing and a lot of it coincided with what my wife was going through re. adrenal burnout/thyroid problems.  She has been eating a pretty much raw zero carb diet for about 10 months now and while things are miles above what they were she still has a lot of problems.  Low energy is still pretty common even though she has way more energy than before, Dizzyness and lightheadedness is another common problem, like at least a few dizzy spells every day. I imagine it has something to do with blood pressure.  Those are the two major things that we are wondering about and if anybody has had these symptoms (if you have thyroid/adrenal issues im sure you have) and if/how long it took eating raw for these symptoms go to away.
I've had the light-headed and dizziness (most after standing) for quite a while myself. The frequency got noticeably worse when I transitioned to "zero carb" or carnivore. I've personally found that I needed a bit more salt in my diet to help alleviate the problem (I had cut salt when I went raw). I'm roughly 5 months raw carnivore now and I'm finding that I both use less salt every day and that my symptoms are diminishing over time. Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2010, 01:18:50 PM »

I've personally found that I needed a bit more salt in my diet to help alleviate the problem (I had cut salt when I went raw). I'm roughly 5 months raw carnivore now and I'm finding that I both use less salt every day and that my symptoms are diminishing over time. Smiley

I only needed some dried seawater in my drinking water when doing sweaty work on a hot day. This indicates mineral deficiency.
The major symptom (a kind of heart arrhythmia/palpitations) never recurred after starting the pemmican-and-egg-yolk, but others that showed up during the 13 years of progressive damage are not so soon cured.

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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2010, 03:50:18 PM »

I never recovered on raw zero carb. The symptoms just got worse and worse and increased so that I was forced to give up and go raw omnivorous-palaeo. My health healed fine on raw omnivorous(took 2-3 years) so I didn't really need raw zero-carb, anyway, even if it had been beneficial for me.

The catch with zero-carb appears to be, judging from numerous reports, that it puts huge extra pressure on the glands such as the adrenals/thyroid. Overworked glands are a particular issue in old age for people on SAD diets, so I'm inclined to think that going raw zero-carb probably reduces overall lifespan by a little bit.
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2010, 04:50:28 PM »

I imagine most people here, are here because they had some form of health problems. I read tylers testimonial thing and a lot of it coincided with what my wife was going through re. adrenal burnout/thyroid problems.  She has been eating a pretty much raw zero carb diet for about 10 months now and while things are miles above what they were she still has a lot of problems.  Low energy is still pretty common even though she has way more energy than before, Dizzyness and lightheadedness is another common problem, like at least a few dizzy spells every day. I imagine it has something to do with blood pressure.  Those are the two major things that we are wondering about and if anybody has had these symptoms (if you have thyroid/adrenal issues im sure you have) and if/how long it took eating raw for these symptoms go to away.

We have used a lot of different suppliments but pretty much the only things we are using right now is Dr. Rons adrenals/thyroid and ive got her to take betaine HCL with her meals to help burn up her food better since she has always had digestive problems that we have tried all kinds of stuff to help but havent found much worked. 

TL:DR; How long did it take eating RAF to heal your body and any ideas on something that we might not be doing that we could?

Does your wife eat organs? Is she stressed - is she getting enough rest, fresh air and movement?
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2010, 06:53:42 PM »

We eat as much organ as we can get our hands on. Every few weeks I would say we get a huge load of organs dumped on us at once and we eat until we cant stand to look at another liver or heart haha.
Stressed? Well when you feel pretty crappy and your internal organs are already stressed, its kind of hard for it not to radiate out. So yeah, she is stressed. 
Enough rest? as good as she can, but when you're sick you have trouble getting a good sleep.
Its winter right now too, and when you're cold and hypothyroid, the outdoors isnt the most appealing place for you at -10 haha. But we do get out for a walk whenever she feels up to it on a nice sunny day or something.

We did live in a tent for about 8 months this year and I would say that did help a lot too in many ways (fresh air, less stress etc.) and I feel like our health hasnt been as good since we moved back indoors, mabye thats part of the problem. I will find out in another month or so when we can get back outside  Grin


As far as Zero Carbing goes.. we are not 'strict' zero carb, but they are infrequent for her, like mabye a piece of fruit a month.  We have experimented with trying to put plant matter back into the diet but you never feel quite right after eating it. So we question weather its really a positive thing.  I dont really believe fruit is natural, at least not the type and availability of fruit that we have today.
So who knows. We have heard about the whole stressing your adrenals on zero carb before, thats why we experiment by adding fruit back in, but havent noticed anything other than there seems to be a 3 month mark on ZC where we just started craving the shit out of sweet haha... who knows, i guess we're all guinea-pigs here.


Im also thinking that recovery is kind of like a curved gradient, where when you're sick its hard for your body to make use of a lot of what you're putting in it, but it gets a little bit and uses that to heal, the next time you eat your body is slightly healed and can uptake a little more nutes this time... so as you get healthier, you get healthier faster? Mabye i am just expecting super-accelerated results, and should be happy with how good it is after 10 months, since it seems most people it took them a few years to actually get back to 'normal'?
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2010, 09:23:14 PM »

I never recovered on raw zero carb. The symptoms just got worse and worse and increased so that I was forced to give up and go raw omnivorous-palaeo. My health healed fine on raw omnivorous(took 2-3 years) so I didn't really need raw zero-carb, anyway, even if it had been beneficial for me.

The catch with zero-carb appears to be, judging from numerous reports, that it puts huge extra pressure on the glands such as the adrenals/thyroid. Overworked glands are a particular issue in old age for people on SAD diets, so I'm inclined to think that going raw zero-carb probably reduces overall lifespan by a little bit.

When I read about your 5 week? RZC experience on yahoo years ago you never mentioned the almost hospitalization, teeth almost falling out etc your RZC experience has appeared to of gotten worse with time.
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2010, 12:22:47 AM »

I learned about various detoxes and cured my eczema in less than a year.  But healthwise I didn't feel any surge in health.  I got on RPD jan 2008 and I feel I bounced immediately up in 2 months after malnutrition with fruitarian.  High fat low carb is really great which I began Jan 2009.  I'm on raw omnivore.
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2010, 03:35:42 AM »

When I read about your 5 week? RZC experience on yahoo years ago you never mentioned the almost hospitalization, teeth almost falling out etc your RZC experience has appeared to of gotten worse with time.
I distinctly recall having weakened teeth with raw zero-carb trials. I did 1 trial 3 years into rawpalaeo, 1 a couple of years later, and 1 after that, 3 in all, 1 of which lasted only 3.5(?) weeks, the others 5-6 weeks. As for not mentioning symptoms, I didn't mention all my former SAD-diet symptoms in my testimonial, partly because I hate letting it all hang out.

I have to admit that I was very surprised at the thinning/loosening of my teeth as that only happened with raw dairy, normally. And it was remarkably sudden. The only thing I can think of is that somewhow calcium-absorption was blocked by going zero-carb. No idea how. Naturally, I'm happy to accept that others can get very strong teeth on raw zero carb, I just don't know why I'm an exception(adrenals don't affect teeth do they?)
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