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« on: June 06, 2009, 07:51:34 AM »

So I've been trying to gain weight for a long time, at first on a high pro, low carb, high fat diet, but I guess my body doesn't digest fat well at all, so I was constipated all the time, and I didn't gain any weight.  Now I've switched to a high pro, high carb, low fat diet, and I'm only constipated on some days, but most days I am fine.  I have also started to finally gain some weight. 

But now I am getting these god awful migraines.  Last night was the third week in a row for me to get one on fri night/sat morning. 

I'm thinking maybe its all the increased sugar intake, because my high carbing has come from all fruits because they are more calorie dense which makes it easier to gain the weight. 

Heres a little background info if it helps.  I strength train three times a week, judo twice a week, and tricking./tumbling twice a week.  I weight 140-145, and am 5'9.  Recently I have been eating around 210g protein daily, and 270g carbs daily, with minimal fat. 

Anybody know what might be causing these migraines or what I should change in my diet to make them stop?
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2009, 12:43:28 PM »

Could very well be the minimal fat.  Fat and protein are the 2 most important nutrients, as they have diverse forms that cannot be manufactured in the body (unlike carbs which generally all end up the same way in the blood stream - glucose).  Fat is also a powerful source of energy, far superior to carbs.  Tho I will give you that carbs can help you gain weight.   

What kind of protein and fat did you eat on your high fat / high pro diet?  Was your carbs zero or almost zero?  Some people don't do well with that few carbs, and even so, there is generally an adjustment period.  Maybe you could try an equal carb/fat/protein ratio, and experiment from there? 
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2009, 01:16:49 PM »

Thanks for the reply guittarman.  From what I've read on these forums you seem to know a lot about the paleo diet, so thanks for helping me out.

And with regards to your question, I started off doing the zone, so I had a pretty good balance of protein, carbs, and fat.  Then I starting leaning out too much, so I dropped some carbs and upped the fat.  Thats when I started to get all my digestive problems.  So i added the carbs back in, and dropped the fat.  Dropping the fat completely has left me without my digestive problems, but now I have the migraines.

My carbs when I was low carbing were very low.  I would only eat veggies, mostly broccoli, except for a piece of fruit after a workout.  I feel I had already gone through the period where my body shifts from using carbs to using fat as the energy source during my days with the rx'd zone, so I dont think that was part of it.

And I am thinking about trying something like a more balanced diet, by slowly reintroducing fat back into my diet.
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2009, 02:17:48 PM »

But You didn't tell us whether your low-carb diet was raw or cooked - it's a vital question Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2009, 02:46:55 PM »

all of my meat was always cooked, i think id have a hrd time with raw meat...
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2009, 05:31:42 PM »

all of my meat was always cooked, i think id have a hrd time with raw meat...

How do you cook your meat?

I experimented with cooked meat using grilling while trying homo optimus diet and it made me feel bad.
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2009, 06:36:03 PM »

That can definitely make a differnce, depending on the meat and how it's prepared.  For example if you're eating fried chicken and well done meat and lots of extracted oils (vegetable, coconut, olive, nuts, etc), then I can see how that would cause problems.  

Have you thought about eating rare steak?  If you upped the intake of rare cooked fatty beef, you might do better on reduced carbs.
Not sure how you eat your veggies, but there's a good case to be made for eating your them cooked instead of raw.  Too much raw veggies can give me a headache - I do fine on fruit tho - avocado, tomato, peppers, all fruit.        
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2009, 04:18:48 AM »

I agree. Too much raw veg can be a problem re digestion(though a little raw veg is fine). So go for fruit.

And cooked animal fat is the unhealthiest kind of food there is, other than trans-fats. Animal fats are particularly badly affected by cooking, and produce far more heat-created toxins than other types of cooked food such as cooked veg or cooked, lean meat. Constipation is also an issue:-

http://www.youngerthanyourage.com/13/constipation.htm
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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2009, 09:09:37 AM »

I was rid of migraines three weeks after beginning paleo. Forever.
At the time, my version was animal fat, raw meat, raw egg yolks and a little cooked veg.

I tried veggy fat years later, and the migraines did not return, but I also got cravings which tell me that veggy fat is not the way (and not paleo either).

BTW raw meat goes down a lot easier if it is grassfed organic and dried. The animal fat is still essential, proven for me because I get low fat headaches if I eat only jerky.
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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2009, 06:22:37 PM »

And cooked animal fat is the unhealthiest kind of food there is, other than trans-fats.

I have to disagree with that. I would bet you my house that if I ate 100% cooked animal fat and you ate 100% white sugar you would die first and be in constant agony from head aches and mood swings within a couple of days. There are many foods, including all the neolithic ones, that I believe are more unhealthy than cooked animal fat. I think you're putting too much stock in that list of toxins, when we all know it was when people started consuming cooked plant oils and more carbs that most modern diseases began, not when people started consuming cooked animal fats.
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