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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2010, 03:04:20 PM » |
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Unfortunately for you, rendering is considered a form of cooking by the dictionary:- http://www.memidex.com/rendering+cooking, so you are in a tiny minority of crazed ZCers who are too stupid to realise this. Again, unfortunately, most people, other than crackpots, view melting fat to make pemmican ,as constituting a form of heating. Stupid is as stupid does. I eat raw pemmican and am well. You managed to poison yourself with something that you believed was tallow, and we would all like to know how you did it. |
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« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2010, 05:46:02 PM » |
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ive been cooking up cornmeal and eating it with raw butter and eggs, salmon etc...
i eat potatoes, sweet and regular raw, as well as raw carrots and squash..cooking these makes them too sweet...i dont feel any hypoglycemic reaction
BUT>....if i eat fruit i feel hypoglycemic and hungry...honey is the same way....?
so to those suggesting these above roots and squash i dont think everyones body reacts the same..
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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2010, 02:47:12 AM » |
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Stupid is as stupid does.
I eat raw pemmican and am well.
ive been cooking up cornmeal and eating it with raw butter and eggs, salmon etc...
i eat potatoes, sweet and regular raw, as well as raw carrots and squash..cooking these makes them too sweet...i dont feel any hypoglycemic reaction
BUT>....if i eat fruit i feel hypoglycemic and hungry...honey is the same way....?
so to those suggesting these above roots and squash i dont think everyones body reacts the same..
Yes, these observations are just facts that cannot be stupidly ignored or denied if we want to be taken seriously from a scientific point of view and progress in future. Dogmatism is just stupidity. There is most likely a big difference between William's "raw pemmican" and cooked meat and fat in general. Similarly between home cooked and grown potatoes or other tubers and highly processed starches and breads based on modern wheat from agrobusiness. |
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Nature is a collective idea, and though its essence exist in each individual of the species, can never its perfection inhabit a single object. Henri Fuseli
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« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2010, 11:44:32 AM » |
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Stupid is as stupid does.
I eat raw pemmican and am well. You managed to poison yourself with something that you believed was tallow, and we would all like to know how you did it.
The very fact that you insist on the notion that your pemmican is always 100 percent raw despite heating-rendering. demonstrates stupidity. As for the tallow I ate it was heated suet and I am just 1 of many,many RPDers who happen to do badly on heated animal fats of all kinds. What I find personally rather interesting/telling, though, is that despite various unconvincing protestations from 1 or 2 lone individuals re pemmican, the vast majority of RVAFers who have tried it report feeling worse-off , healthwise than on genuinely raw animal foods with negative symptoms increasing the more pemmican they eat, and the more frequently they eat it etc... Given the above, if there is any genuine difference in maleffects between pemmican and standard cooked animal foods it is clearly too negligible to be of any note. |
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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2010, 12:00:44 PM » |
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« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2010, 12:51:29 PM » |
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William, I am impartial in this situation, but maybe if you could provide the info on how you uh.. construct your pemmican without the use of heat that will be beneficial.
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« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2010, 03:45:26 PM » |
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William, as usual, you are simply ignoring the dictionary and people`s common usage of terms and refusing to accept that pemmican is heated as a standard practice. And tallow as a term is indeed used to describe heated suet so that claim of yours is also false.
Since you persist in such frequent flat-earth-style pronouncements despite numerous warnings from other mods, it`s clear that further nonsense of this sort will have to be redacted from now on, with more actions to come, to ensure stricter adherence to the truth. Quite frankly, given that virtually all your ridiculous dietary beliefs come straight from that fool The Bear, your absurd views hold no place here,and you would be better placed to post instead on the ZIOH forum where you`ll find many sharing your exact same retarded fundamentalist views.
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« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2010, 02:51:14 AM » |
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But combining a raw dried meat with raw suet is not the problem. This kind o pemmican is 100% raw.
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« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2010, 03:22:58 AM » |
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But combining a raw dried meat with raw suet is not the problem. This kind o pemmican is 100% raw.
That wasn't what William was talking about. He was referring to heated/rendered animal fats in pemmican , to 200 fahrenheit etc., as raw. Whatever the case, in order to make pemmican one has to render it and therefore heat it(genuinely long-lasting pemmican has to be heated to very high temperatures). Raw suet and dried jerky together is not official pemmican therefore, it's something else. |
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« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2010, 04:01:02 AM » |
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Raw suet and dried jerky together is not official pemmican therefore, it's something else. Yeah, I know. Besides its shelf life would be quite short. As you said the suet must be heated to high temperatures to create long-lasting pemmican, such as inuit one. |
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