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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2010, 07:31:57 PM » |
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Roony, I would like to see references for cheaper cuts of meat having higher concentrations of 'nutrients'. And I am not speaking about organs. thanks
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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2010, 10:00:57 PM » |
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Well, it's nice to find something Roony and I can basically agree on. Ribeye has a decent amount of fat, but he's right that organs and fats are generally MORE healthy than lean muscle meat, not less--especially if we're talking grassfed (or wild). Also, the more grassfed fat and organs you eat, the less of the expensive berries you'll need (assuming that inexpensive grassfed fat and organs are available in your area--though they can also be purchased via the Internet from Slankers and others).
It's almost a rule that your diet will be healthier when you do the opposite of what most nutritionists recommend...
When they say don't undercook your meat or you risk quick, horrible death from gruesome microorganisms--eat it raw (and even better, rot it first). When they say eat lots of "healthy, whole grains"--avoid them completely. When they say avoid read meat completely--eat plenty of it (preferably raw and wild or pasture-fed). When they say avoid saturated fat at all costs--eat lots and lots of it (preferably raw and wild or pasture-fed).
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2010, 12:01:10 AM » |
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to vlad, me and my entire family are on raw paleo diet. i'm moving to nyc soon and hoping to meet you soon. 
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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2010, 02:06:40 AM » |
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Roony, I would like to see references for cheaper cuts of meat having higher concentrations of 'nutrients'. And I am not speaking about organs. thanks
I'd like to see those too, i'm basically quoting aajonus on that one, unfortunately i dont have the time to hunt down something so obscure I'm presuming the greater number of nutrients comes from a large surface area, packed into a dense area, like breast of lamb, its toughness encourages far more virulent & aggressive bacteria & parasites, to break down the tougher meat, over soft tissue
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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2010, 10:26:18 AM » |
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Good work buddy.
I still think eating the raw meat on camera was a mistake. It turns this into a sort of freakshow in the eyes of the general public
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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2010, 05:27:46 AM » |
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I just love that bit where Vlad tears a chunk or two from the raw meat with his teeth while out in public. I only dared do something like that once when I ate some raw eggs in an isolated, largely unfrequented park in London. Even then, I was very very discreet.
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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2010, 05:37:53 AM » |
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Another plus:- The following paragraph in the above article:- "Along with pure, mostly raw food, the modern caveman adapts his exercise to mimic the exertions of hunting -- or being hunted -- instead of today's emphasis on endurance running or building muscles in the gym" appears to imply that modern palaeolithic diet adherents in general mostly follow a raw, palaeolithic diet with just a little cooking. This is why it's such a good idea to court the media as (admittedly false!) impressions such as this can make our diet seem a lot more appealing to the general public.
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"You need no more be human, which is a heavy yoke" The Queen of Air and Darkness, Poul Anderson "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action" Goldfingerism, Ian Fleming
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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2010, 08:55:07 PM » |
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I just love that bit where Vlad tears a chunk or two from the raw meat with his teeth while out in public. I only dared do something like that once when I ate some raw eggs in an isolated, largely unfrequented park in London. Even then, I was very very discreet.
I often have eaten raw meat and fish and liver openly in public in Costa Rica. Not so much, though, in the US. I don't want stupid questions from stupid people. 
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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2010, 02:22:47 AM » |
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I often have eaten raw meat and fish and liver openly in public in Costa Rica. Not so much, though, in the US. I don't want stupid questions from stupid people.  I did it recently. I was in a pet shop. I had a pint mason jar of diced buffalo flank in my cart. Their dog knew, and they didn't, and apologized for her. I told them I have raw meat, that maybe their dog wants some. They said "yes, if you don't mind". So I took the jar out of my bag, opened it, and she delicately took it from my hand with her mouth, placed it on the floor, and "asked" me for the rest of the serving. The couple said she does want it, and is just playing. So I asked them "should I take a piece and eat to get her to eat?". They said yes (straight faced like nothing unusual). I took a piece out and ate the piece. The dog ducked down and ate her piece. All were happy. They seemed grateful.
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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2010, 10:10:36 AM » |
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Tyler, I'm not thrilled that AFP story implied that most paleos are raw. If the media focuses too much on the raw part, it may turn off people from paleo completely. I know some of you may disagree but I'm of the opinion that getting folks on even a cooked paleo is a good thing. I also find that once folks go paleo, they're much more open to raw. I recently did an interview with Russian paper and was on Colombian National Radio this morning with Cordain. They put me on right after Cordain, I'm not even sure he heard me talk or knew that I was following him. In any case, in both interviews I said that paleo diet does not need to be raw to be of benefit. I've turned down other media inquiries when I thought they were planning on ridiculing paleo by emphasing raw too much. For those of you in NYC, we got a paleo meetup potluck tomorrow, I plan on bringing a raw dish. http://www.meetup.com/Eating-Paleo-in-NYC/
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