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« Reply #370 on: February 08, 2010, 08:40:46 AM » |
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I've been doing raw ZC for 3 weeks and this week, I had a bit of diarrhea, it was tolerable at 1st but yesterday it was pretty bad. I also had very little energy, no hunger, difficulty sleeping, so i ate some fruit yesterday and feel better already. It sounds like i've run into the same kind of troubles you did, do you know if anyone else on this forum experienced that too? Hopefully adding fruit will allow me to eat raw meat again without having diarrhea. I've had raw meat many times before doing raw ZC and never had this problem.
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« Reply #371 on: February 08, 2010, 08:55:06 AM » |
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I've been doing raw ZC for 3 weeks and this week, I had a bit of diarrhea, it was tolerable at 1st but yesterday it was pretty bad. I also had very little energy, no hunger, difficulty sleeping, so i ate some fruit yesterday and feel better already. It sounds like i've run into the same kind of troubles you did, do you know if anyone else on this forum experienced that too? Hopefully adding fruit will allow me to eat raw meat again without having diarrhea. I've had raw meat many times before doing raw ZC and never had this problem.
Oh, plenty of others have reported these issues in the past such as Guittarman etc. A few such people experience the negative side-effects only a few days of going without any plant-foods at all, but most tend to get the nasty side-effects starting from the 2nd week onwards. Things started going really badly for me when I entered my 3rd week of raw zero-carb and subsequently steadily worsened.
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« Reply #372 on: February 08, 2010, 09:49:35 AM » |
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Things started going really badly for me when I entered my 3rd week of raw zero-carb and subsequently steadily worsened. William would say that this was still the adaptation. 
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« Reply #373 on: February 08, 2010, 10:01:02 AM » |
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I've had to add stuff like cream, bee pollen, basically tons of fat with highly nutritious bioavailable sugars, such as bee pollen & propolis, or a drop of royal jelly
Exercise also seems to stop people from craving carbs, especially on a zero carb diet
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« Reply #374 on: February 08, 2010, 10:29:14 AM » |
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Exercise also seems to stop people from craving carbs, especially on a zero carb diet A don't think so. When you exercice you need some amount of carbs, so if you don't eat them the craving will appear sooner or later.
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« Reply #375 on: February 08, 2010, 10:32:11 AM » |
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didn't have diareaha, but had to lay on the couch for a weekend with no energy. The body has to develop mean for using fat as fuel. I would say it is adaptation. look at the accounts of Stephason's men. They all went through similar experiences.
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« Reply #376 on: February 08, 2010, 10:35:21 AM » |
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exercise does help. It gets the blood and lymph moving, moves the intestines, gets oxygen to the brain etc. Just don't do alot. Walking is sufficient. The tendency in the beginning is to just sit and lay around.
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« Reply #377 on: February 08, 2010, 10:39:19 AM » |
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Craving doesn't have to be for carbs. It could be also for more protein - I had got it.
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« Reply #378 on: February 08, 2010, 10:43:45 AM » |
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When i exercise, i never get cravings for carbs for the rest of the day, it's only when i dont i find myself thinking of eating crap lol
Mainly because you're using your fat reserves far more efficiently for energy, then if you sit around
In order to use fat for energy efficiently you need to expend alot more energy, exercise is a part of that expenditure
Sedentary & endemic carb in tissue, brings on cravings for carbs, as a low exercise body burns fat far less efficiently, cravings for carbs, ie energy which uses less effort to use, occur
Fat is also far efficient then carbs in terms of density
Carbs have 4 calories per gram, while fat has 9 calories per gram
On a ketogenic diet, ie zero or low carb, diet, with exercise you're getting double the amount of calories by burning 1 gram of fat, then you would by burning 1 gram of carb's or sugar
Sedentary lifestyles crave carbs & sugar, because of their inability to use fat efficiently, even with ketogenesis, or on a low carb diet
Why people like aajonus or people who find exercise unhealthy, is because of the periodicity or their biological clock, after a term of ketogenesis, ie eating fat as a fuel, being stationary or sedentary forces them to use alternative forms of energy from their liver & muscle, which are different types of sugars from regular carbs, but still burn alot faster then fat
They would need prolonged exposure to exercise to allow their bodies to use energy from fat, when stationary or sedentary, as theyre bodies have adapted to processing sugars stored in their muscle liver etc., when sedentary or stationary
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« Reply #379 on: February 08, 2010, 01:33:34 PM » |
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I've been doing raw ZC for 3 weeks and this week, I had a bit of diarrhea, it was tolerable at 1st but yesterday it was pretty bad. I also had very little energy, no hunger, difficulty sleeping, so i ate some fruit yesterday and feel better already. It sounds like i've run into the same kind of troubles you did, do you know if anyone else on this forum experienced that too? Hopefully adding fruit will allow me to eat raw meat again without having diarrhea. I've had raw meat many times before doing raw ZC and never had this problem.
When a junkie addicted to heroin does cold turkey, he goes through withdrawal symptoms; if he takes heroin the withdrawal symptoms disappear. It's that simple, except that you got your fix from carbs. All of us doing RZC went through this.
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