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« Reply #380 on: February 08, 2010, 01:48:47 PM »

Except there seemed to be something else for me... Has anyone here had braising steak? The fat in fat doesn't taste nice, and is basically the same as the fat around kidneys and the heart. I was doing alright. Mainly I wasn't having that much fat because mostly I was eating this braising steak, or lamb which had fat like that too and I knew it would make me ill, but occasionally I'd force myself to eat a bit more of the fat than I could handle and I'd get ill. About week 3 I had way too much, and I was out with a proper fever then... Sent me back to square -5 -_-

During the 3 weeks I was doing lots of exercise, and never wanted carbs... I wanted fat.. but none of the fat I had tasted nice and it was bad so I mainly stuck to protein, so I had little energy(but even less when I had suety fat since it made me ill). I was much stronger, but when not doing exercise I was very cold... Eating the fat from lamb/braising steak would make me cold, or have no effect, where as the fat from rump steak(which I could only afford reduced) made me feel energetic. I struggled to believe it was raw as it tasted a bit like cooked fat, it was soft and yellowy too.
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« Reply #381 on: February 08, 2010, 02:05:11 PM »

I started having a look at what Dr. Cordain has to say about "Paleo"...well I found this

1) A lifetime of metabolizing glucose and stored muscle glycogen. When you get your only carbs from fruits and veggies, the carbohydrate content of the diet is severely reduced, and thus may initially lead to low blood sugar and lethargy.

2) The inability of peripheral tissues (i.e. muscle) to effectively use beta oxidation of intramuscular triglyceride as a substrate because flux through these pathways has been neglected for a lifetime. Once dietary CHO is reduced, then muscle must rely upon lipolysis from adipocytes as the major energy source, along with esterification of these free fatty acids at the muscle/blood interface in order to increase the intramuscular triglyceride pool.

This process takes about 1-2 months to occur in typical muscle glycogen compensated Westerners, and longer for women than men. Increasing the fat content of the diet and increasing fruit intake during the transitional phase will probably help with these energy issues.


But then again get your own "Paleo Diet Update" from him - I don't know...we talk about meat and fat - he believes low fat and all kinds of plants and fruit; if I go looking for wild plants and fruit I won't find any at this time of year...on top of that what about digestion!

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« Reply #382 on: February 09, 2010, 04:29:42 AM »

A don't think so. When you exercice you need some amount of carbs, so if you don't eat them the craving will appear sooner or later.
  There's a big deal of difference between minor transitional symptoms as experienced by those who've successfully transitioned to raw zc, and the massive health-problems incurred by the majority who don't do well on RZC.

I continued the diet for a further 2-3 weeks in 2 of the trials. Of course, others have gotten even worse health-problems at an earlier stage, only a few days into the diet, so have had to give up earlier than me, or face hospitalisation in the end.

I gave rzc diet the benefit of the doubt when I tried it, much like with the raw-dairy-heavy Primal Diet. But , in the end, I had to give both up or end in the morgue. There's a limit to dietary fanaticism, and when one's health is completely compromised, it's wise to try something else.
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« Reply #383 on: February 09, 2010, 04:51:40 AM »

  There's a big deal of difference between minor transitional symptoms as experienced by those who've successfully transitioned to raw zc, and the massive health-problems incurred by the majority who don't do well on RZC.

I continued the diet for a further 2-3 weeks in 2 of the trials. Of course, others have gotten even worse health-problems at an earlier stage, only a few days into the diet, so have had to give up earlier than me, or face hospitalisation in the end.

I gave rzc diet the benefit of the doubt when I tried it, much like with the raw-dairy-heavy Primal Diet. But , in the end, I had to give both up or end in the morgue. There's a limit to dietary fanaticism, and when one's health is completely compromised, it's wise to try something else.

Exactly, you need a broad spectrum of nutrition & bacteria, even with raw meats, limiting it to muscle meat, you severely limit your food groups, such as proteins & fats
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« Reply #384 on: February 14, 2010, 06:17:03 PM »

how do you eat the tip of an ox tongue? my teeth can't.
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« Reply #385 on: February 15, 2010, 04:14:13 AM »

how do you eat the tip of an ox tongue? my teeth can't.
  Well, I just cut up the tip off with a knife , then cut it in two and ate those 1 at a time, just bolting them down. You really don't need to chew if the chunks are small enough.
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« Reply #386 on: February 15, 2010, 04:43:22 AM »

I was talking about rawpalaeo sleeping-patterns in a previous thread. 1 thing I noticed about myself is that while I sleep a lot less than in pre-SAD days(even taking into account the chronic fatigue I had in pre-RPD days), I tend to wake up fully alert if I'm in a tent or if I'm facing a large window directly, and usually at break of dawn, even if I've gone to sleep past midnight. Conversely, if I'm in a darkened room with no sun's rays coming in, I can take till 8.30am to wake up, sometimes 9am, anmd initially feel rather tired.
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« Reply #387 on: February 15, 2010, 07:08:05 AM »

Could there be anything wrong with eating tongues (from lamb and ox) as my main source of fat? I currently don't have access to a good source of fat or fatty meat, the meat i eat (ground horse) is very lean.
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« Reply #388 on: February 15, 2010, 07:14:47 AM »

Could there be anything wrong with eating tongues (from lamb and ox) as my main source of fat? I currently don't have access to a good source of fat or fatty meat, the meat i eat (ground horse) is very lean.
Nothing wrong at all. I've depended almost wholly on raw tongue during many periods in which raw suet or raw marrow became unavailable for whatever reason. It's an excellent source of raw fat(if grassfed/wild).
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« Reply #389 on: February 16, 2010, 03:42:10 PM »

One of the things that has brought me much joy in life in the last decade has been the website  allexperts.com. Not only do I enjoy answering questions on diverse subjects such as science fiction books  but I've also found it most useful for asking questions on subjects I'm not too familiar with. If you happen to be expert in some obscure subject(even if it's beekeeping or stamp-collecting or trainspotting etc.!), I would strongly urge you to volunteer on that site. I've always loathed the concept of charity in the form of giving money to others, as I find those types to be reminiscent of the utterly evil Mrs Jellyby of Charles Dickens fame, but volunteering information for free seems to be a worthwhile undertaking.
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