^ I imagine it could work if they could find a way to perforate the tract and poor the stuff in directly over the stone. Should be possible, at least in my mind, but maybe the stone would need to sit in the solution for a while in order to start dissolving significantly.
The last option is surgery, of course.

During the period 1984-1999 I've repeatedly expelled kidney stones and experienced numerous episodes of nephretic colics. As shown by regular scans ( every 6-12 months) new stones formed systematically...

The stones stopped in 1999 after I had changed my diet to raw paleo in december 1998. Six months after beginning raw paleo the scans showed that no new stones had formed for the first time after 15 years...

I'm stone-free ever since.

Very impressive

Hi Alphagruis,

Can a person avoid kidney stones eating VLC? Is ZC the culprit, or some other factor?

Thank you, I choose not to rehash this in Lex's thread to save his worrying over them - if indeed a man such as he does worry!

David

Hi David,

Frankly I don't know and probably nobody does. We have to experiment, I'm afraid, with the accompanying risks. What I have observed on myself is that after 15 years of painful kidney stones  I could get rid of them (no new ones formed) in 1999 after only about 6 months on RPD. This was a very impressive experience and I am still deeply impressed.

My diet was strictly raw but rather omnivore though with a substantial quantity of food of animal origin. So I cannot seriously conclude from my medium to low carb experience what happens with ZC or VLC. 

Yet my gut feeling is that if the diet is strictly raw, as is Lex's one, ZC or VLC is probably not the culprit as one might expect from some observations with cooked ZC or VLC diets. My guess is that stone formation is rather a matter of heat generated toxins that perturb the kidney function.

As I said in Lex's journal the stones might well have formed before his ZC diet and  it is only now once a few years on his more appropriate diet that he has recovered sufficiently for his organism to undertake the painful elimination of these "old" stones.

I'm fairly confident and think that Lex can stay on his diet with little risk. Provided  he checks (as he does) with periodic scans that no new stones or calcifications form anywhere in the forthcoming months. If unfortunately new stones formed he will know it rapidly and can then still safely take action.

I recovered from a much worse kidney stone history, without RPD I would have died many years ago. 

As you do I also choose to not make him worry unnecessarily about this. He is indeed a tough guy and I am deeply impressed by his journal and posts.

Gérard 

Oh Boy, I can hardly wait!  Unfortunately, neither of my current stones has passed yet so there is still much more fun to come.  One is in the bladder awaiting some inopportune time to make its exit, and the other one is still working its way from the kidney to the bladder.  Both stones are about 3mm.


Lex
  

The stone is more like an open crystal structure with sharp points and small needle like projections.  It scrapes its way through ureters and urethera shredding tissue along the way.  The only way I can describe the pain is to think of very slowly ripping your stomach open with the point of an ice pick while continuosly pouring alcohol on the wound.  The pain is relentless and can continue at an intense level for hours at a time.

Lex