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« on: October 21, 2009, 09:09:47 PM »

This summer my family is planning on going to thailand for a few weeks. i will be done with college and will probably stay for longer and possibly work on a farm (WWOOF) or just bum around. anyways, i want to use this thread to get ideas on how to stay mostly raw paleo on my travels. Also, as noted in the vaccine thread, i am interested in any input on which vaccines are recommended and safe. Hopefully i will also be able to go to nearby countries such as cambodia and vietnam. Also, i'm very interested in visiting the phillipines and would love to meet up with goodsamaritin. anywho, i'll keep this updated as i figure out more about my upcoming trip
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2009, 02:36:52 AM »

Sweet!

I don't know anyone who gets vaccines for Thailand or even Bali. I remember people used to get the malaria tablets but they don't even work.

So when you heading? I've been thinking of heading up to SE asia.
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2009, 09:20:27 AM »

interesting andrew. and those people didnt get sick im assuming  Wink. we're thinking we will be going late next summer (july or august). no definite plans yet though
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2009, 09:24:24 AM »

If I were you, I wouldn't take any vaccines whatsoever.
Re malaria - Hindu people who drank water from Ganges didn't get sick; they didn't need any harmful vaccines
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2009, 09:32:07 AM »

If I were you, I wouldn't take any vaccines whatsoever.
Re malaria - Hindu people who drank water from Ganges didn't get sick; they didn't need any harmful vaccines

yeah but the thing is, i have no previous exposure to these tropical diseases like those hindus did.
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2009, 09:46:57 AM »

yeah but the thing is, i have no previous exposure to these tropical diseases like those hindus did.
Are you accustomed to thiomersal that is present in vaccines? I don't think so
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2009, 09:50:15 AM »

You are just going to Thailand for a few weeks.
Probably in civilized places.
I don't see why you need vaccinations.
My wife and I spent a 1 month vacation in Thailand and we weren't recommended any vaccinations, and this was during my non-health aware stage in life.
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2009, 04:01:42 PM »

Are you accustomed to thiomersal that is present in vaccines? I don't think so

exactly! so there's my dilemma: is it worse to get the shit that's in vaccines or potentially get sick from diseases i have no immunity to?
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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2009, 04:03:25 PM »

You are just going to Thailand for a few weeks.
Probably in civilized places.
I don't see why you need vaccinations.
My wife and I spent a 1 month vacation in Thailand and we weren't recommended any vaccinations, and this was during my non-health aware stage in life.

well that's the thing. im going with my family to civilized places for a few weeks, but once they leave me behind, im looking at working on farms and venturing to more distant places. not sure how long im staying
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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2009, 07:15:11 PM »

well that's the thing. im going with my family to civilized places for a few weeks, but once they leave me behind, im looking at working on farms and venturing to more distant places. not sure how long im staying

Maybe you need a Thai resident health expert and ask what diseases are in their provinces, what are in the Thai distant places.

For example, my wife works with Shell Philippines Exploration and she steers a foundation in the remote province of Palawan.  The corporation and the foundation have an anti-malaria project.  In the regular civilized places, there is the common malaria disease brought by mosquitos, that with detection can be treated by their existing drugs easily.  But they say if you are venturing deep into the forest to reach the remote tribes, the cerebral malaria strain there is different and instantly lethal... as a Manila based reporting team headed by Reyster Langit found out much later on whether they were uninformed or they disregarded the warnings. (they all died).

I remember many years ago I was working with our french equipment supplier and one of the french technicians who ventured into ivory coast in africa got hit by elephantiasis (?), strange ivory coast disease so they needed help from ivory coast experts who knew exactly what it was and what to do.  He survived.
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