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« on: October 16, 2008, 03:55:04 PM »

Since this issue interests me quite much, I open a new post, not to spoil iceman's journal.

Main facts so far pointed out are:

- bioavalilability of egg's protein: I suppose the reason is "avidin" contained in eggs, even if I have to say that eggs protein are used as a reeference for measuring the biological value of proteins
- allergy to eggs: some people claim that they are allergic to eggs. I have a question here. Wich are the symptoms ?
- fertilized eggs: here in Italy there's no mark (in my knowledge) on eggs to state if tehy are fertilized on not. How do you recognize a fertilized egg ?
- some say that problems arised if they relied on eggs only as a source of fats.

What are you experiences re eggs ?
Any useful information to share ?


I start with my experience:

I started have eggs at breakfast some years ago (only whites first cooked or not).
Then (2.5 years ago) I started eating whole eggs, cooked.
1 year ago, i switched to an almost entirely raw omnivorous regimen, since then I eat 3 whole raw eggs per day at breakfast.

So far I didn't notice any problem.
In a few months I'm going to have blood tests, so I weill be able to have more informations.

Any contribution is welcome.
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2008, 06:48:13 PM »

Well, 3 eggs a day isn't as extreme as some.

The way you recognise fertilised eggs is to look inside the yolk and you'll see a red nucleus forming(or embryo, if the eggs have beeen fertilised some time ago), judging from what I've heard. I've never actually seen a fertilised egg in the UK as they're almost unheard of.

Re health:- I noticed a slowed healing-rate after eating too many raw eggs a day. I can't remember exact specific details, except that I would feel stronger on those days when I ate meats instead of eggs. These days, it's less of an issue as I've recovered, healthwise.
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2008, 10:05:32 PM »

I found out I and my 5 year old boy are allergic to fake eggs / un-fertilized eggs / chicken menstruation.

Now that I have found my sources of raw fertilized eggs, both duck and chicken, we are fine and happy.

Of course I learned not to depend on eggs just recently, seems they are not body building enough, I need real solid meat.

So it is raw fertilized eggs for me or none at all.
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2008, 11:49:21 PM »

I found out I and my 5 year old boy are allergic to fake eggs / un-fertilized eggs / chicken menstruation.

I keep seeing this occasionally. Are unfertilized eggs really just chicken periods? Man if that's true, I'm gonna have some serious fun telling everyone who's eating eggs that!
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2008, 12:20:03 AM »

I think that they are, indeed, chicken periods as they are an unfertilized egg passed from the body of an animal.

I've noticed thus far that eggs mostly elevate my hormone levels, reverse most of the symptoms from sexual overexertion(headaches, inability to focus, general "blah" sensations). In this light, I view them more as a snack food or hormone-fuel than anything else. I haven't eaten them in large amounts, though, so I can't say if half a dozen eggs or more will have any different effect on the body.
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2008, 01:14:32 AM »

Have you tried eating just the yolks, raw?  The yolks have almost the same amount of protein as the whites.

Interestingly, I just saw fertilized eggs for sale this morning at the Whole Foods Market here in Texas.  Whole Foods is a grocery store so the fertilized thing must be catching on.     
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2008, 10:46:07 AM »

The idea of infertile eggs seems strange now, obviously in the wild the only eggs you would find in a nest will have been fertilized. It also seems very plausible that there would be all kinds of hormonal differences that could cause health problems in unfertilized eggs.

But then again maybe not. I'm just surprised every time I read something that makes so much sense and I haven't really thought of it before, because I spend (and spent) so much time thinking/reading about diet/health.
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2008, 03:55:45 PM »

Iceman, I tried just the yolks, and they are great, but cannot sand throw away food, so I went back to eat the whole egg.
In the fertilize egg you foud was there a label stating they were fertilized ?

Kyle, I think in the wild you just cannot know if the eggs you find are ferilized or not (util you open it).
This is my thought about that: a bird expell the egg anyway (whether if it has copulated or not), so during reproduction times you would have found fertilized eggs, during non reprodution times the eggs were unfertilized (every animal species have cyclical reproduction times). If eggs were eaten, then I believe they were eaten both fertilized and unferitlized, because if eggs were recognized as "good" every egg found would be eaten. IMHO
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2008, 07:14:57 PM »

Iceman, I tried just the yolks, and they are great, but cannot sand throw away food, so I went back to eat the whole egg.
In the fertilize egg you foud was there a label stating they were fertilized ?

Kyle, I think in the wild you just cannot know if the eggs you find are ferilized or not (util you open it).
This is my thought about that: a bird expell the egg anyway (whether if it has copulated or not), so during reproduction times you would have found fertilized eggs, during non reprodution times the eggs were unfertilized (every animal species have cyclical reproduction times). If eggs were eaten, then I believe they were eaten both fertilized and unferitlized, because if eggs were recognized as "good" every egg found would be eaten. IMHO
I'm afraid this is rather unlikely. You see, the only reason why domesticated chickens manage to produce so many unfertilised eggs each year is that they are bred genetically for that purpose over millenia,fed on diets extremely high in grains and are kept away from male cockerels, which would not be the case in the wild. Birds in the wild generally lay only a few eggs a year, usually during a breeding season, not just for human consumption, so 99% of the time the eggs would have been fertilised, due to the presence of male cockerels. Only, in very unusual circumstances, where local predators had killed off the male cockerels etc., would eggs from wild birds be unfertilised.
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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2008, 09:02:47 PM »

Uhm, this makes sense, Tyler.
But can we assume this unfertilized egg were eaten, if found ?
In this case humans got used to digest them...
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