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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2008, 05:03:04 PM »

Andrew's right, coconut oil, even raw, contains lectins, salicylates and other antinutrients which cause problems for some people. I've also had digestive problems after eating coconut oil(which was 100% raw, cold-pressed etc.)
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2008, 06:31:35 PM »

I think you need "virgin coconut oil."  This is the raw version, cold pressed.
"coconut oil" just by itself is the cooked version.  I personally do not touch this unless I see my herbalist make it herself.  But VCO is just superior, most herbalists today just buy cold pressed VCO and add in their herbs to make it more potent.
Maybe you were sold the cooked "coconut oil."

Yes, "virgin coconut oil" is anti-fungal / anti-candida and works pretty good. 
See http://tinyurl.com/vcodetox

It is always possible that someone is allergic to something.


It's 100% organic, cold pressed virgin coconut oil. Supposedly produced within one hour of opening the actual coconut.

Coconut has the highest level of salicylates out of the vegetable oils.

I'm not anti coconut oil some people can handle it. It just hurts my guts and I instantly want to get it out of my body (throw up/diarrhea) It does kill candida because I've used it topically and it definitely works. I would take care prescribing it internally to sensitive individuals. I think 'herxheimer candida die off' from coconut oil is often confused with allergic reactions to the VCO, I knew the difference and stopped taking it.

Since eating almost 99% raw carnivore I've become more in tune with my body and notice allergic reactions, of which I've always had, I just did not notice them because I thought they were normal bodily sensations and I was overwhelmed by the shear number of allergens.

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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2008, 09:15:32 AM »


just as from a cow's, goat's, ewe's, camel's, buffalo's, donkey's udder: from a coco-nut people may get milk, cream, butter, yogurt, cheese

&, who knows, perhaps coconut opiates the brain as much as dairy does?

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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2008, 06:28:10 PM »

What's the difference between coconut cream and coconut oil?

I am just beginning this way of eating and for the last 5 days for breakfast I have been having 6 raw eggs + 1 lime juiced + 1 tbsp of cold pressed sesame seed oil.  My muscles just have had no energy for kickboxing when I go to the gym.  I think I must be detoxing or something.  I don't have all my raw meat/dairy yet so I had some bread and butter an hour b4 the class so I thought I would be alright.  I've been feeling tired too.

Anyone else experience this when they first started?
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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2008, 07:26:13 PM »

What's the difference between coconut cream and coconut oil?

I am just beginning this way of eating and for the last 5 days for breakfast I have been having 6 raw eggs + 1 lime juiced + 1 tbsp of cold pressed sesame seed oil.  My muscles just have had no energy for kickboxing when I go to the gym.  I think I must be detoxing or something.  I don't have all my raw meat/dairy yet so I had some bread and butter an hour b4 the class so I thought I would be alright.  I've been feeling tired too.

Anyone else experience this when they first started?

    Coconut cream you make fresh.  Coconut oil is the fermented enzyme-free end product. 

    Sesame oil is on the Primal Diet?  Did AV recommend it to you?  What kind of bread?  How often?  What kind of eggs?  What are the limes for? Have you done any green juices or unheated honey?
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« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2008, 10:11:08 PM »

    Coconut cream you make fresh.  Coconut oil is the fermented enzyme-free end product. 

    Sesame oil is on the Primal Diet?  Did AV recommend it to you?  What kind of bread?  How often?  What kind of eggs?  What are the limes for? Have you done any green juices or unheated honey?


Thanks for clearing that up.

Nah I know bread isn't part of the diet, I wont have all the primal diet foods until this weekend though Smiley

I got AV book a few days ago..soon ill be fully fledged primal diet. Smiley  I know this is for me. Yeah I have a juicer for green juice and I found a place to get unheated honey which is good.

The eggs are free range that havent been refridgerated.

Apparently limes help loosen everything up, and the raw fats are used by the body and they carry toxins out too like AV says.
http://www.curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=180601&s=1#i1 

That thread is what got me learning about the primal diet.. it has the stuff about limes too.
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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2008, 01:13:45 AM »

Interview with AV:

"You recommend the use of stone pressed oils (heated below 96 deg F) in our diets. You state that they should not be eaten with vegetables, as in a salad. Please explain the benefits of the oils and why the mixture with vegetables is harmful?

Cold-pressed-below-96 deg F oils mainly provide solvents for detoxification. - They may also be made into any fats as fuel, lubrication and chelation, but not much. - These oils are chiefly cleansers.

The combination of vegetables (leaves, stalks and roots) and cold pressed oils is most often inadvisable. Vegetation in the human digestive tract is mainly undigested. It would take at least one more stomach, 2 1/2 times more length of digestive tract and 60,000 times more of the enzymes that disassemble cellulose to derive much protein and fat from vegetables. If you put cold-pressed oil, without being premixed with raw vinegar, on vegetables the oil coats the vegetables and further reduces the digestibility of the vegetables."

taken from http://life-enthusiast.com/index/Articles/Vonderplanitz/All_Raw_Primitive_Diet
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