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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2009, 05:10:45 PM »

Thanks for the idea Satya, sounds very logical.  I just ran out of milk so my wife is relieved there's no more farting.
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2009, 03:29:01 PM »

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I am having the same problem with raw milk if I drink it by itself. I am also having gallbladder issues from time to time which might be connected to problems with the fat in raw milk. And I notice that I do not fart from pasteurized and homogenized milk which I shall never touch again :-).
When I blend raw milk with eggs the farting problem goes mostly away. It goes away completely if I mix milk+eggs+raw honey. I believe that the lecithin in the eggs helps emulsify and the digest the fat in the milk. The honey with its enzymes probably aids further with the digestion. Overall this makes for a great post-workout drink.

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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2009, 03:15:56 AM »

I'm experimenting again with raw cow milk every single day for some 5 days now and I keep farting and farting and farting. And my farts smell like they are liver farts. Probably some kind of detox.

I've been eating raw honey too as Aajonus suggests to better digest the raw milk.

My question is, did this, or does this happen to you?
How long before this farting stops?
It's embarrassing, it liver stinks.

How did you ever come to consider cow milk consumption as a option to be tested (again and again) and report in this forum whose name is Raw Paleo Forum that your symptoms were probably detox? Animals domestication is typically neolithic and their milk consumption by humans  is even modern for many populations, especially in S.-E. Asia and Africa.

But thank you anyway, your experience confirms (if it were needed !) that animal milk consumption can be troublesome and is dangerous. Devil Tail

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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2009, 03:24:29 AM »

When I blend raw milk with eggs the farting problem goes mostly away. It goes away completely if I mix milk+eggs+raw honey. I believe that the lecithin in the eggs helps emulsify and the digest the fat in the milk. The honey with its enzymes probably aids further with the digestion. Overall this makes for a great post-workout drink.

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If you could travel back in time, I would suggest you to go back to the paleolithic era and explain to our ancestors that they could drink milk from animals without farting as long as they mixed it with eggs and raw honey. Smiley

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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2009, 02:46:32 PM »

In defense of the "goodsamaritan", this forum is about AV's primal diet which includes raw milk, cream and cheese. It is a sub-forum of the paleo forum because it is different. Milk by itself is not dangerous for everyone and can be curing for some people. The argument that the people in the stone age did not have it is of limited value. They never had to deal with the toxic load we have to deal with. They were not shot with poisonous vaccines from an early age on. Many of us need to find ways to heal and for some of us that might include "unnatural things" like sucking on a cow's udder (well, not literally but almost). Weston Price found many native societies living healthily while including milk products. I doubt any were Asian though, as many Asians do not seem to have the mutation that let's them produce lactase into adulthood.

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How did you ever come to consider cow milk consumption as a option to be tested (again and again) and report in this forum whose name is Raw Paleo Forum that your symptoms were probably detox? Animals domestication is typically neolithic and their milk consumption by humans  is even modern for many populations, especially in S.-E. Asia and Africa.

But thank you anyway, your experience confirms (if it were needed !) that animal milk consumption can be troublesome and is dangerous. Devil Tail

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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2009, 04:00:50 PM »

In defense of the "goodsamaritan", this forum is about AV's primal diet which includes raw milk, cream and cheese. It is a sub-forum of the paleo forum because it is different.

Yes, sorry about that: I became aware of the sub-forum thing after posting.

I know about Weston Price findings, but still I doubt that drinking milk from another animal specie - and moreover when adult - could cure anything except malnutrition. On the contrary, experiments of several people eating 100% raw-paleo-instincto showed that any small amount of dairy product can trigger a tremendously dangerous reaction. I myself tried once to eat about a cubic centimeter of "very natural", raw organic goat cheese and I felt an extraordinary lengthy and heavy digestion.

After eating raw-paleo-instincto for a duration sufficient to loose any habituation, the treacherous effect of animal milk consumption usually appears very clearly. Nevertheless, I recognize that once habituation (not to be confused with genetic adaptation) has been acquired, some individuals can thrive on dairy products without showing early signs of bad health. The troubles induced may happen late in one’s life, or maybe never for the best adapted individual amongst the populations accustomed to dairy products for thousands of years.

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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2009, 09:59:53 PM »

In defense of the "goodsamaritan", this forum is about AV's primal diet which includes raw milk, cream and cheese. It is a sub-forum of the paleo forum because it is different. Milk by itself is not dangerous for everyone and can be curing for some people.
I welcome the primal diet people here, but to act like the safety of milk is a certainty ignores the fact that the majority of Paleo Dieters do not eat any dairy products, so your post in essence ignored our existence, which I hope was just an unintentional oversight.

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The argument that the people in the stone age did not have it is of limited value.
It's part of the essence of the theory of Paleolithic nutrition. It may be of limited value to a primal dieter, but to a truly Paleo dieter it is crucial. So we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. WAPF devotees, primal dieters and Paleo dieters share many things in common that I hope we will focus on more than the disagreements, and we can politely disagree where common ground is not shared.
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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2009, 10:49:28 PM »

What I can observe is that there are people who do well on dairy.

And my experiments have conclusively shown I am not one of them.  Sad

The main reason I tried raw dairy is because I was led to eating raw meat via the books of Aajonus Vonderplanitz.
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