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« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2009, 12:09:49 AM »

My opinion on unlimited editing time is it is a disaster waiting to happen.
I have seen it several times with my customers.
Some long time member with a gazillion posts suddenly decides he wants out of the forum... he deletes each and every post he has ever made.  The forum makes no sense afterwards.

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« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2009, 04:38:27 AM »

My opinion on unlimited editing time is it is a disaster waiting to happen.
I have seen it several times with my customers.
Some long time member with a gazillion posts suddenly decides he wants out of the forum... he deletes each and every post he has ever made.  The forum makes no sense afterwards.

I agree. I've seen it happen on another discussion forum(not a RAF one). Since threads are a collaborative, not an individual, effort, it does seem inappropriate, vis-a-vis the  other posters in a thread, to allow mass deletion of all one's posts.

That said, I do think it's quite safe to allow 24(or maybe even 36 hours) for those who don't necessarily always log on the same time each day). The way I see it, any harm caused with such a delay would be so minimal that it wouldn't matter. Since most members seem to want enough time to edit  re spelling mistakes but hardly any are really interested in reediting posts older than a few days, that seems logical. Given the extreme rarity of people wanting to edit really old posts, anyone could simply e-mail a Moderator and ask them to post in any correction to months-old posts, such a request likely only happening 2-3 times a year at most. What do you think?

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« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2009, 06:09:51 AM »

Lex, you did not offend me at all.  I am sorry that my general rant seemed to have been pointed at you.  In light of my general negativity, I had better take a break from posting here for at least a week.  See ya next time, if there is a next time for me here.

Please resume your regular, tightly controlled discussion.  Many forums have open editing that works beautifully, so your fears are totally unjustified.

Adieu.
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« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2009, 07:13:00 AM »

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« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2009, 07:28:50 AM »

I guess I just don't take my posts that seriously. I probably would if I ever had gotten ripped off on a patent or something like lex talks about. I've said a lot of stuff I wouldn't agree with now on other forums but oh well, I just let the chips fall. Although it's nice to error on the side of freedom as well, freedom to change or take away your stuff. I think the main difference is how seriously people take forums, I've had people go off on me on a thread before and then delete it because it embarrassed them later, and then later they can claim that never happened in a separate argument. Oh well, let them do that if they want. Or let someone delete their posts, making threads nonsensical. Because in the end that person will not be taken seriously on the forum anymore. It's like, both situations, freedom to edit or not, can be abused and will be by people who are dishonest or whatever, so it almost doesn't matter. Honest good people will use it right and not rip people off or change their stuff around after the fact to make themselves look better, and dishonest people will do the opposite; similalarly trolls will always find a way in.
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« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2009, 11:14:32 AM »

My opinion on unlimited editing time is it is a disaster waiting to happen.
I have seen it several times with my customers.
Some long time member with a gazillion posts suddenly decides he wants out of the forum... he deletes each and every post he has ever made.  The forum makes no sense afterwards.

I actually agree with GS here.  I do believe that after some period of time allowing full editing rights would be a mute point and probably more distructive than helpful.  For me there are two issues: 1)The window of opportunity to correct and clarify posts, and 2)The ability to update the first post in my journal with each year's lab tests and such.

As GS points out, a long time member with lots of posts could delete them causing significant damage to the continuity of the forum. BUT, as Tyler points out, little damage could occur if the window was fairly narrow.  Tyler's suggestion of 36 hours (the window of opportunity to correct and clarify posts) is still a bit short for my purposes - at least for my journal, as I depend on the reponses I get to let me know if the points in my post are unambiguous and clearly stated.  I'd like to see one week (7 calendar days).  This would provide time for responses and limit any malicious editing to a very short time frame.  A long time member could only delete or significantly alter posts withing the last 7 days.  Also, I would expect that we are backing things up on a regular basis (nightly?) and could easily restore any damage caused by malicious behaviour in this short term.  Please give this some thought and see if you don't agree that a week would be more than enough and actually create the illusion of unlimited editiing rights (as few would revisit a week old post), while at the same time protecting the integrity of the forum over the long term.

My second issue, updating annual information in the form of adding pdf attachements each year to my first journal post, might be addressed by my posting the updated version in the journal thread as normal and then asking a Global Moderator to copy and attache the file to the first entry as well.  It would take little time, and certainly meet my needs.  All that I want is all the lab tests and charts etc to be in one place so that people can easily compare them without having to do an Easter Egg Hunt to find them.

I personally do not expect or want to be given Global Moderator status just to be able to make these occasional updates myself.  Global Moderator should be reserved for someone fulfilling the responsibilities of that office and I have neither the time nor inclination to do so.

Please think about giving us a full week editing window.  This time frame would meet both the practical need to make useful changes as well as the important psychological illusion of unlimited edit time since the activity around most posts have run their course within that time period and the orignial poster would be very unlikely to revisit the post after that time.

My next lab tests are due in July.  At that time, if you are willing, we can try my other suggestion of having a Global Moderator copy the pdf files from the current chronological post in the thread and add them to my first journal post to see if that process is a viable option.

Lex
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